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Managing Chronic Wasting Disease

This hour on Focus, we’ll take a closer look at chronic wasting disease and how Illinois manages disease epidemics in its wildlife populations. 

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Chronic wasting disease was first discovered in deer in the Rocky Mountains in the 1960’s. Since then, its spread to the Midwest, Canada and a few eastern states, and there has been ongoing debate about the best ways to keep the disease from infecting more deer. CWD, which is 100% fatal and incurable in deer populations and has been in Illinois for the past decade. According to new research from the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, the state is doing something right when it comes to managing the disease. This hour on Focus, host Jim Meadows talks with Nohra Mateus-Pinilla, a wildlife veterinary epidemiologist for the Illinois Natural History Survey, and Jan Novakofski, Associate Vice Chancellor for Research and a Professor of Animal Science, about the disease, how it affects deer and why we should be concerned with keeping it from spreading. We’ll also talk about managing diseases that have epidemic potential in wildlife populations.

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    Illinois
    maybe doing something right in managing its deer population for chronic wasting disease
    dizzy if you haven’t heard much about this disease deer elk
    boost maybe one sign of the states success in controlling it spread
    like mad cow disease chronic wasting disease spread by a protein

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    not effective find someones facebook what happens red line stop
    stop humans authorities still want to protect wild animal population
    Jim Adams today in focus will talk to research in University of Illinois
    Illinois campus chronic wasting disease why it’s important to keep from spreading
    sprint
    program continues after the news
    welcome to focus mg Meadows chronic wasting disease is scary

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    scary even if its only found in deer elk and moose the diseases
    is the result of a protein on a bacteria or virus in recent years
    unfounded deer and other animals and 22 States into Canadian provinces
    is it was first founded Illinois 11 years ago and since then department of
    natural resources in the Illinois Department of Natural Resources has been calling
    calling selected deer populations as a way to control the disease
    has the calling works well our guests on focus today conductor the long terms

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    term study to see if it did in the result a promising were talking to them
    today about their studies findings Norma Terris is a wildlife veterinarian
    Mary epidemiologist Illinois natural history survey on the University of Illinois
    Illinois Urbana campus and Janet Nova Cup ski is the
    animal sciences professor in the Department of Animal Sciences of the university network
    work together on the study have you had experience with animals that could
    could suffer from chronic wasting disease are you a hunter listen to do with additional rules and

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    regulations to do chronic wasting disease deer like to hear what’s up
    what your experiences are give us a call at 1 800 2229
    29455 that’s toll free 1 800 222 wyll
    and you can email I sent will dash talkin Illinois dot
    .edu and I will for starters lets define what is chronic
    chronic wasting disease what animals does it strike of lets first of all
    how do you how do I describe a disease of the abyss Nature yes

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    is the Hello gym XT first Wolitzer price of pleasure to be here
    here comes the disease this is a disease that is transmitted by
    buy Capri own protein is infectious protein very different from a
    bacteria and virus in the sense that the a bacteria or virus can you sue
    who is Legoland in Houston response in the immune response
    spawns is something that allows us to come you suck diagnostic tool
    tools for prion diseases because we don’t have the opportunity Alsina

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    response we do have some challenges associated with the Diagnostics
    test for temple and out that sounds something a little friend uglies coming for
    coming from the outside in this is not spread by anything alive
    therefore there is nothing that kills um is all the way I guess
    if you could get rid of the get rid of the bad protein that would be the day that would be
    that would be a solution SMS message actually correct protein
    teens normally when you eat food you have you eat proteins and you digest Lowes in

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    and to me lashes and use them to to build new proteins in your body
    print proteins are very resistant to digestion are the Bayou or buy back
    bacteria when are spread out to the environment so this particular
    take your class of protein is Right persistent think alike your fingernails or hearing
    miradrain nothing really much does it takes for a strong chemicals
    ortex rose road conditions in fact that the same situation is prion protein
    proteins it take strong chemicals to destroy this proteins different sexes

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    it takes a long time for them to go away when during the environment and
    how did these proteins harm in a Honda Deer so the proteins
    the protein is this is an approaching a normally performs a biological
    logical functions and causes Notice season in new damage the animals it’s actually a
    Aaliyah are normal protein occasionally for reasons that we don’t understand
    the protein fools in two different shape in the street then is very
    is for hard to remove biologically order Breaking Dawn so its not easily

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    digester turned over in the body the protein accumulates in simply by
    by virtue of accumulating causes damage to the cells census is a protein
    protein is present in the nervous system causes damage to the steps you and causes
    symptoms receipt overtime it continues to build up cause more damage causes Morrison
    are symptoms and how does it build up is replicated when cells divide for it is
    it is so your cells are always synthesizing proteins some proteins faster than other
    inprint proteins are just like that because it normally service a normal function

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    function is being made all the time when we have these abnormally 4
    the folded Prince present the actually cause other freon to change shape
    and so we’re continue making normal ones that then change shape into this damage
    damage causing structure now there are other diseases which are caused by
    by Prince & A stand in other animals including the couple of diseases
    that’s correct so the most
    most in the news of course is mad cow disease and we’ve known for

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    several decades now about mad cow disease which is a prion protein in kale
    in cattle and four Peters time we didn’t understand how this was spread
    and Europeans were feeling back mean bone meal with Lee had a rosary
    large number of animals affected in Europe and the master control that over the past
    the past decade number case is not very small simply by preventing
    Lansing breaking up cycle of getting the infectious protein back to the animals
    okay and umm the diseases that do exist in humans

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    human version of mad cow disease in the stand brutal version
    human version of mad cow disease is called a very in Crestview Jakub zzzz
    Intel does human version of mad cow disease is basically a choir
    from the consumption of infected Matt cold meat
    so consuming a cattle infected with mad cow disease ok and
    and I was a little confused a retard is there is at the only disease of apprentice
    disease that affects humans is human drive very intimate encounter is there another

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    another one is probably the only disease that we can consider that has been transmitted
    taxi from animals embryo protein diseases be transmitted from animals
    do humans but they are other call preowned protein diseases
    Inhumans such a screw for examples of historical golf course
    who wrote you are you can you are you yeah um so this is love
    listen to this is a historical disease affect humans in his penis
    associated with the consumption of all brain tissues from family members

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    in New Guinea okay not something that every day around here hopefully not
    k a question is something that was emailed over to us by our by Michael
    Michael of course concerning um chronic wasting disease
    is can it be transferred to humans especially since many people
    hunt deer eat venison well so a couple things
    first of all there is no there is no evidence supporting facts chronic wasting
    zzzz can be transmitted to humans by the same time

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    we want to be careful because the disease has no treatment so we don’t want to be the first
    the first one to find out that it can be transmitted know it’s also
    Ford recognize very few deer have chronic wasting disease
    because in the state of Illinois email to control effective Lee Samson Illinois what time
    states and provinces so other states of used berries
    various and sundry control strategies umm MN certainly if you look
    you look in the scientific literature there are a good reason for choosing

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    using different methods for control other states of try to use increased hunting
    widespread trap shooting war facts on cases
    some states simply don’t control it all they simply offer testing of all the madness in thats thats
    that speaks out about hunters and the heart is okay will simply not
    not consume the animals are infected cheaper easier just a test
    going back a little bit to the risk of all transmission of this disease from deer tick
    do humans think that the abyss points were silver young 425

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    the knowledge of all chronic wasting disease in thumbs because
    because of the stage we are in terms of our understanding of the potential risk
    risks or not transmissions to humans we are to recommend
    the people for example do not consume beer that is infected with chronic wasting disease
    please all the Russo Anders if you got to find ac/dc
    see things like for example do not go to see em all brain live
    lymph nodes on other tissues that tend to accumulate the pre owned protein

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    not bring some from any animal Welland is the work of talking about
    chronic wasting disease brain from animals the derm SA
    silk more deer mule deer whitetail deer
    Elko news that have been infected with chronic wasting disease OK
    the the system thats in now certainly in Illinois are all
    are all or are all a deer in other animals which are
    which which which are hunted shot in a certainly I prepared for human consumption

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    something on the tested Bruce upper portion of Boo
    Boot beer in the state of Illinois that is being tested for chronic wasting disease
    very good resource of 404 hunters in the state of Illinois is suck dick
    Illinois Department of Natural Resources and they would have um in the website
    website that will help for a list of the places work om samples will be accepted for sale
    for testing for chronic wasting disease but it’s it is it valid Terry at this point Obispo
    this point is a voluntary effort into a very valuable effort

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    for both a standing of were the Nazis is present in the state
    into RKO Bertucci’s to understand how does it spread I’m wondering how
    how does the the testing process work would you send a small portion of the
    turn off to a certain sites with a be a place relatively close by that you could go to Hotmail
    how to solve how to work well as as the contestants earlier this
    this is really difficult to test for this disease because it’s actually protein
    protein so there a specific tissues that we can see the accumulation

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    the protein alert the top of the spinal cord or some
    witn news from the head of the animal laws are collected and putting it fix it
    accident and injury much like you would see on a TV shows user sign of
    mother cut into thin sections exam with a microscope after standing for the protein
    Sony Pictures Hurley labor intensive and Philly time consuming process
    process there is nowhere that individual Hunter kon kon go to heaven
    what has done in his own he needs to work with SCDNR State diagnostic lab have a testing

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    testing done okay we are talking about chronic wasting disease
    which has been infected and killing deer in many parts of the country including summit Illinois
    I guess star to researchers on the U of I campus looking at Illinois
    attempts to manage the problem of North Norma test at the Illinois Natural History
    reserve a Department of Animal Sciences professor Genova cocky
    how do you hunt deer have you seen the guidelines coming your way concerning this
    this disease will give us a phone call or send an email where at 1 800 222

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    2229 455 toll free 1 800 222 w
    wyll email us at will dash talk it Illinois .edu
    besides offering this testing what else has the Department of Natural Resources
    resources been doing they been doing their own testing the deer population of trying to identify
    identify where were outbreaks a relatively high poems
    boo boo state of Illinois has been working on a surveillance Edison
    what is a Texan of chronic wasting disease Senseo

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    play since 2002 and that’s that’s when we first founded in
    Illinois yes in fact I actually the state of Illinois have some fun
    duck for sponsors keys just like a few weeks before they started the valence program
    Sol kill it was really interesting because they were already prepared and ready to
    32 Lounge the trail in Safford arms and then we had our first apostle
    positive but through 10 years off of work the states actually has been able to
    220 look for the disease throbbing state of Illinois

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    Illinois clearly every year call different counties are valid
    ohms and then in the areas were the disease has been detected
    the state of Illinois implemented a very localized effort for free
    removal of animals in an area where the diseases presents so there
    so there’s a second coming of animals that is correct so that is there might be hunted in shot
    shot and removed certainly not not not not set up
    set up for consumption anything like that in those areas the blue

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    the hunters in the areas are always encourage to Paul Smith
    samples for old the Texan of chronic wasting disease the test results
    soles are provided to them very very rapidly ohms
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    into the Battle of the hunter to make their own
    phone go toys with the meat the samples are collected
    what to buy boots by the state of Illinois to the sharp shooting effort or against this is 40

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    CWDM old me the test negative is the native to the pantry
    good food pantry negatively mean no no credit place to see that is correct
    is the use the they have been using for the last Olympics
    10 years do what we call the gold standard in the diagnostic testing
    chronic wasting disease is it supposed to be like the look of cube root of earlier
    sexy kiss is the best to do we have for the taking chronic wasting disease
    movies in any animal to test negative essentially is a cell

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    azlottery consume food pantry so in the Clinton cases
    cases where the DNR decides to call the deer population Los Angeles
    insulated hire people to go out to Judy are there in the course they can tell in vans if the deer
    deer has chronic wasting disease therefore the negative results get the
    venison gets donated but that also means that in that area
    there there fewer deer available for hunters General right so important points
    points about the the program so first of all did you know does rely heavily on

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    the samples from hunters to to recognize specific locations where there is a
    is a disease deer no we know from yours a study of Wildlife
    behavior roughly how far do you’re going to move around so we know that
    if you find a deer in the speaker spotty me move a milder 290 directions
    what is primero home range so the calling of a deer
    here by the DNR is restricted just a Bose locations where we have a disease
    ZZ animal in a deer that he may have moved around a Shemale move around

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    infected so this is very very localized calling is Justin tended removing moles
    animals that may have become infected by the previously known disease in animals
    so this is really work wise in the deer population in entire County
    friends absolutely not K & N Sync is that the first thing the most
    most important thing is first to paint a test results and basin does test results
    food food food food food pantry okay and umm
    shut down from what I’ve seen right now um chronic wasting disease has been

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    has been found off strictly in northern Illinois I think it make it down
    DuPage County might be the the farthest East
    East County that that was a factor that right up against Cook County in Chicago suburbs
    ribs but it sounds like the heaviest to inches is 7 founded really bad
    really been up in in in northern Illinois closer closer to the border yes it is
    what is correct the boom there are couple of counties in the North
    northern part of the state that have been heavily affected by chronic wasting disease

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    ugh is was Justin to last year that the first case of chronic wasting disease
    phone to Page County yes in MS
    MS part of the part of the measures excess that we manage to keep this disease
    spring rate for South compare the range that we find infected animals
    animals in Illinois to other states remained sticky piston to insure a relatively small
    my location no that’s important because if you think about
    the potential the potential I am size is this might be transmitted to others

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    the other animals or humans would like to keep the Rangers smallest possible just in case
    case ok for I want to get back to more about the Illinois effort stack up
    stuck up with other states that we have some phone calls lining up and I want to say hello to Andy
    from Charleston online for good morning on focus eyes
    can I call my question was shut that
    guess that there would be some hope for a vaccine development based on the fact that you’re fighting
    especially in lymph nodes affected its being seen

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    in lymph node is protein suggested that there is a fact
    response okay thank you
    thank you very much and so let me put the answer the question from the last part for
    Park first so the mere fact is protein is found in the lymphatic system work
    amor mune tissue simply means that is associated with immune cell doesn’t necessarily mean
    community spots no by the same token mean
    Rose hopeful for these things and there are many many laboratories working on

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    vaccines or other sources of drugs it might be used to treat this
    this this problem and clearly because it doesn’t turn this disease occurs in humans
    that we would like to have better diagnostics for humans for treatment for humans as well
    women working on s4 maybe 15 years are so right now and so far
    are we have groomers of hope but we haven’t got anything that is real
    is really what we would call a successful candidates yet um so keep your fingers crossed
    frost wiki Parts Crossville keep working on how do we treat

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    other prion the spread diseases in humans with its like a human
    human version of mad cow disease kuru what do we do sensor not spread by
    read Bible verse a bacteria Genesis the reason the diseases scary images reason
    is reason that the controller for import there is no treatment real treatment
    Lil does therapy there is nothing to alleviate symptoms are trying to reason
    how to reduce the spread of the protein no there’s does not so once an individual has
    Joe has this disease do they will eventually die from the disease

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    this is ridiculous unfortunate when is happens in younger individual sometimes it happens
    comely happens in older people in it looks remotes like outside
    something that were no object weighs more you stick something older
    older people having this type of neurological DT reation better to spray tragic Whitakers in young women
    what is something something wanna be sure of because I know if I first saw presidents
    this was the case with chronic wasting disease deer that it was always fatal when disc
    discovered by the Corsair limits and then what you can do in treating wild animals

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    but when you’re talking about a human being sued submit a medical care
    Karen Hospital conditions Cetera what you’re saying there’s nothing you can do no one fortunately
    there’s no there’s there’s nothing to slow down even to even to slow down at the latest
    play the spread of off off off off the prion protein to the body
    no unfortunately I wish I could tell you differently but that’s not the end
    yeah and that’s that’s one of the biggest challenges with the sum what does neural DeGeneres
    generative diseases of the pre owned protein lonely is very go

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    is there is nothing we known how to stop in but once they have
    the damage the neurological sells Krispy much no return back
    back so what is happening with a lot of for example the the brain cells
    cells is that they will end up short form kind of form
    where there are no longer functional in The Dalles to something that is just not
    not reversal okay I want to take another call now and we’re online 1
    11 a.m. Saying hello to Gary in Gilman good morning you run Focus good morning

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    this is on the related side but blue tongue disease
    southern Illinois Dallas County gasparin in Hamilton
    Milton Kelly and the last five years are in a lot of deer have died from
    bluetongue disease can you explain it
    Blue Tongue disease is a disease that the have some ill
    increasing its so innocent Rishta or the Last of years
    bluetongue disease is very different a chronic wasting disease blue tongue diseases

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    Dr transmitted by a vector is the victory mean yes your credit
    Craig James think you got evicted meaning of basically um a virus
    snow dogs amino Cabalgata bug Sol what is happening is the
    is the does bugs usually is so biting on the deer and the bugs
    transmitted to fire someone telling me its a midge with a complicated Latin
    Latin name so we can you still use image in it is filmed
    image that the like to live alone streamlines into

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    into the blue tongue action occurs more frequently during the time of drought
    who were the animals with oxycontin trade in some of the streams creatine
    creating an opportunity for them to become exposed to it and it is a viral disease
    disease which show chronic wasting disease clearly is not
    okay and umm is it is it a disease that poses
    is a risk units of Newton bars it does not posa a risk
    go to humans boo boo sing with viruses that causes high mortality

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    season deer Intel better to fish a league of their own what are colors
    color is really concerned about because so when does so old
    I’ll break super dark earlier very concentrated area in the mortality
    tell if you could be relatively high so if you definitely definitely a fact population
    Asian not there’s not a risk say off of anything spreading of someone with
    annoyingly me eat meat from a cow in an infected animal
    ESN to happen in the question that you that you bring up Internet

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    affecting the population I would actually be a little bit more concerned about the overall
    impact of something like in the long term long run the world impact
    back on the population of socio with chronic wasting disease of the reason is because
    because this is a disease that have such a long term of persistent
    Indian de animal populations that has the authority to spread itself
    self help a lot more rapidly that would be done what we would see was so good
    okay so definitely different different situations going on here with us

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    what is a viral infection spread disease like blue tongue and
    and um something like right wasting disease spread by the Supreme Team
    correct Indian singers with a chronic wasting disease a piece to date we do not have
    avec for a bug image or anything like that is associated with the transmission
    in a full of chronic wasting disease what we’re going to take a short break
    continue our conversation about the impact of chronic wasting disease on the deer population India
    Illinois State and other things we know and dont know about us

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    the disease and its role in whether or not to service coverage does jumping the other species
    PCs focus Wilo we are back on focus
    wyll mg Meadows were talking with Norma test at the Illinois Natural History
    free survey and University of Illinois animal sciences professor a gender of a car
    McCaskey the topic is chronic wasting disease is a disease that strikes as ID
    deer and elk and moose turned up in Illinois in several other regions in North
    North America we welcome you questions about Illinois has managed deer population

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    endeavor to minimize the diseases impact our number is 18
    1 800 22 29455 that’s 1 800 222 w
    wyll email I sent will dash Tongkat Illinois dot
    edu I think there was a one last word you want it again is about Pluto
    Blue Tongue of the Blue Tongue disease which is not chronic wasting disease but also
    also know that the insect that spreads it is not going to be very active during
    that’s correct if you if you were hunting a normal gun season

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    unseasoned the midget serve frozen out hopefully most years a person out so
    so in that disease specialist comes and causes the animals die from quickly
    so the rest of exposure to humans another word for little risk in the first place
    define likely to contribute exposed to the disease at that time of the year back to Cali
    chronic wasting disease and we have a cooler online for a friend from Oakland morning
    InFocus by another good program you guys I am
    I wanted to ask you questions and to make

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    make appointment are you there so silent
    number 1 what effect does this
    this disease is any have on scavengers might find in a flicker
    Flickr the animals or a predator predator to my friend Flicka affected animals
    il n’a tcher alt friend
    22 beta we do not have any evidence that
    the the this disease or chronic wasting disease has an affair

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    effect on scavengers good ok on number 2
    20 over population of we have periods
    how to clean head problems up here in northern Illinois on it
    I still do with overpopulation
    politics about I have something to tell it again about any animals die
    guy especially of starvation does this overpopulation
    population enhance that the spread of discredit wasting disease

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    well because the diseases transmitted from animal to animal the population
    population density clearly has an effect on transmission if you have lice
    lots and lots of deer in a small space in one of the misic is more hills more opportunities
    has more opportunity transmitted disease to other deer so that’s also
    salsa bases the classic basis for wildlife disease management is we try
    trying to reduce the population of the local spots to prevent a transmission
    once again an interference with a limit on the predators and we refuse

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    two column or more specifically column in a way to nature
    Sherwood WI letter Hunters go out there and take off the best special
    set of the week the dying in the old are there
    other problems with this disease or similar diseases and other
    another day another country Canada actually have
    who has a relatively large program for control of chronic wasting disease
    zzzz and they have animals are infected and b*** outside

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    what side of the US and Canada just just us and friend you bring up of
    Peralta very important the question here in the or Corre Corre
    common duck hunters she only wanted Hunter sexy to have to bass
    the best of the animals and that is social reporting recommendation for the hunters
    hunters of is best if they do not actually remove a deer
    for the year that looks sick or Corp in order to unlock rights
    right oh and dad that is a recommendation essential Eco focusing on the phone

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    the fact that we do not understand completely if there are any reasons to be king
    concerns about about moving to humans friend I want to thank you
    thank you very much for your call of the question of calling and it sounds like a
    what does something that other than a friend Minden endorse in certain situations
    what has this been a cup of controversy with witch hunters or anybody else
    DL says the DNR has moved to head with their program
    I fink is the secret is the difficult situation because

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    because so Gardner from stakeholders there are the dark
    colders it is so it is controversial because submissive
    most of us just not really like the idea of going in and having the chills
    killing animals so just for killing animals but the other same time
    I’m at this point we do not have any other resources to actual
    actually manage the chronic wasting disease sold
    all because of the limitations are only choice is really to actually do a localized

    00:32:35

    lice removal of deer in areas where the disease is present
    we have a question on from David from Urbana online 100 morning on focus
    will a couple things that haven’t been explained I think
    um this differs from bacterial and
    are viral diseases in that it is a mutation
    in a normal protein it occurs I think once in every
    every on cattle 2 million or 3 million

    00:33:10

    Union to joules and I just largely
    self limiting transmission in the year is it
    where is largely due to the fact that of ruminants in general
    the females eat the placenta after giving birth
    burn it to a natural process that conserves valuable
    mineral and the author of nutrients
    what are vital to the animals um its not

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    not just the birth mother that eats the placenta but weather
    is there a high population of the year will also
    eat placentas and this is a large
    percentage of the transmission think its open
    open question whether it’s awful transmitted in feces
    PCs and umm umm your I do you have any
    you have any information on that what you race in very interesting questions salt

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    let me start back received the first one about the mutation belt
    you’re absolutely correct in some cases sprint disease rises from
    from a genetic mutation that changes the sequence of a protein
    and makes it more easily fooled into the incorrect a disease-causing
    confirmation Mountain fortunately once the mutation
    in that particular individual has occurred and we have a disease causing protein
    you can also transmitted disease to a normal individual who does not have a mutation

    00:34:55

    Tatian so we actually have the genetic basis for disease
    Days Inn we have the transmitted basis for disease NSU cases
    where is the disease look very similar but they are in the key in the second case
    is not a result of mutation is result of exposure to the misfolded proteins
    so you can get a disease in order to waste now in terms of transmission
    mission in the wild so this is it this is a very important questions for house
    how do how does the disease be transmitted from from between deer

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    and we actually has very good evidence that in fact it is transmitted in Cedar Hill
    so if its Highway infected ear um is in the area other deer
    deer can be exposed to that dries up the turns into dust video
    what organs does the plan for making heated and become infected
    so we see it spreading with within a species but its not jump
    jumping a species Francis Twitter predator are scavenger pizza Eaton infect
    Becca Deere transmission between species is as good as its a challenge in

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    question because you know the protein looks very similar Soffer sample for you look at cheap
    cheap purses deer view the protein sequence of protein structure of very very
    reverse similar but what prevents part of what prevents the transmission between species
    shes is infected the nature of the digestive system the nature of the immune system
    im in a relationship of the immune cells which hole does this isn’t a museum
    disease the muse of transport proteins into the nervous tissue
    the structure of the intestinal tract in relationship to the new cells in the intestinal

    00:36:40

    ultrak important disease of inside would like to add
    who had the baby brother something really important and it is the fact that we know that this
    does a propane connection infectious protein can be released in feaces and
    and in you read this is so this is so something that’s all we need to take into account
    account because like a coffee was bringing up earlier transmission of Khan
    chronic wasting disease can occur also Fuka direct contact rate
    when was getting really close to each other we know the protein is social presence saliva

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    um but it also it is possible because the contributions of the pre
    the preowned protein in feces and urine can actually contaminate the environment
    no we have another Cooper 234 transmitting or Consequences
    zzzz to animals even though they’re not include contact to each other soul
    sole boutique the father of intervention as it is so right now implemented
    in the state of Illinois is starting essentially two things one is to
    20 remove the animals that are infected in a particular area

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    I’m at the same time removing the contribution of the pretty girls
    animal the contribution in feces and urine old is prion protein
    do you invite mint that’s not strictly your talking about that after the animals gone
    um you want you you’re trying to reach you trying to move things like feet
    faces from your from the from the ground with a were living in a certain way
    certainly we’re not going to be removed fuses in urine well what I mean bike
    bidis is dead by removing an infected animal yr olds removing better

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    that animals gokhan tore future contribution in season
    in your dream of the pre owned protein but once a protein is in the environment
    tall is something that bass drum notes with other diseases of we believe
    lethal stay there for a long time well I’ve David I want to thank you for your call
    call me need to go to another line and thats not like to wear weight from champagne is waiting
    good morning around focus you up I guess so
    what’s in there an article about to operation

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    operation of scientist is studying cheap and I guess you have a sum or disease in Colorado
    Brad Owen after they finish their studies that shut the up the place down and
    some time for later they brought me Dorinda do a somersault 8th anniversary?
    questions whether the the pre on in the sheep actually jumped
    species and started a CWG in the mule deer that
    that that Happiny you actually a razor edge
    is fascinating possibility and certainly scientist

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    consider that very carefully unfortunately looking back in time is just so far
    fire in the past but we don’t really have any tools to the positively say
    lease a one way or the other remains clearly remains a possibility
    f*** we can’t prove it or disprove it what what what is the name of the disease
    the disease that that that the sheep Avenue we call that the disease called scrape e & G
    Ashley has creepy we have historical records is creepy going back
    back for some 500 years and the diseases real noticeable cheap because

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    because part of the damage causes them to itch and situation
    raising sheep for wool scratch themselves in on fence post for trees
    illusory wall so you have a disease animal that has big bare patches in it
    very obvious for a very long time what what what do a.m.
    what they done with sheep in all the years of the state do with the infected tear it finds
    simply put it in a landfill how do you keep it from
    from contaminating the rest of the day

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    environment will the temperature be killed the two strategies are used for making
    making sure we don’t contain lead environment we are the incinerator carcass or we can actually die
    digesting with chemicals soul for Champlin Galesburg we have a large chemical to digest
    adjuster here on campus virginville we don’t have any shape is crazy but we are having sex
    generators that would be capable of destroying the protein that way to
    are you a hundred yourself out yes and what have you been have you been download
    receiving information about guidelines about I requested to send a sample of tissue

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    distance from Denver to the DNR for testing for chronic wasting disease I want to say it was about
    is about to make beef 13 years ago so I got a very interested in
    um hearing that stuff moving from Wisconsin and Illinois
    and I didn’t take a dove way back then 12 years a go to Galesburg
    where to have a test if you have to take me higher carcass in no no just took the
    the head okay CNN way does something that is important to
    4 for you to know right now is that the again the guidelines for really well

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    Welkom presented in the in the website of the Illinois Department of Natural Resources
    resources if you go to the website NXT Gotye PWD
    you will find a lot of information as to how to proceed bride OK
    what weight awaiting cute thank you very much for calling
    and we still have time for a more calls about a chronic wasting disease
    disease and how it affected the deer population of the elk and moose population in other
    another parts of the country number to call Hiiraan focus speak with our guests is 18

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    1 800 222 94551 800 222 w
    the wild the email address will dash talked into Illinois
    a.edu were talking Norma tales from the Illinois natural history survey and I
    and I Janet of coffee in Animal Sciences professor at the U of I now when you
    what would you look to what Illinois was doing um I guess the
    question the question 1 over the years what do we know about the law
    level of infection the number of the percentage of animals we can make an estimate

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    off off of the deer population infected with chronic wasting disease has it
    has a grown as a state steady has a chance with a trunk
    what would we know right now is that the boob the problem
    what is the amount of disease in the deer herd of the state of Illinois
    dog be gone little round 1 percent
    really have to remain around 1 percent of 1 percent of the deer population estimated to be in fan
    infected with chronic wasting disease oh it is so basically 1 percent of the end

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    the animal star tested for CW de Sol Gomes
    what is one percent of the animal tested for CWE how does that compare with other states
    its and understand you look specifically at Wisconsin and they were doing
    doing things a little differently from Illinois to Wisconsin actually was pursuing
    slightly different strategy and part of that is based upon the difference in heaven landscape
    so if you’ve been in southern Wisconsin part of Illinois part of the has more
    is more forest more connected forced so they were actually trying to cold

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    colder in larger areas and in fact that was played on popular
    in some years ago they change the control to basically lion hunting
    little eye something to reduce the populations and
    partly because hunters don’t go to the places where disease are hunters go work
    starting over the counter anti depressants disease has gone up since that time in Wisconsin
    yeah it’s going to wear so
    so differently about 5 percent correct word for 5 years is going up from one

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    from one percent about 5 person now do we think that’s going to hold steady there a credit go up
    father the trains the transfer indicating that the W suck that is
    so many tramadol increase ohms in the compare to
    youtube to what were seen in the state of Illinois in relationship to management the trance
    the trance in the state of Illinois have remained flat and elope percentage one percent
    what look at that do you think calling is a good long term solution
    to the incidence of chronic wasting disease are we just by being a time

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    something else can be done I think it’s a me up
    a little bit depends on what you mean by one term so we are working
    working on vaccines and treatments and things like that but those are a waste
    down the road in the meantime I think we need the Collingwood was calling
    that we started success over the past decade I think that remains are best option
    option to keep this disease in track and keeping track until we know more about
    about how the risk is what’s the risk is for livestock for humans in

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    and we have a better technology de preps control it in India is a disease
    eiza suppose to something we have no treatment for I’m wondering about the way the diseases
    jesus prayed we were talking about a bit before about animals close quarters picking up
    kickin it up from the from for from the inside of a Faces of ruminants
    can um tennis protein
    go into the soil can plants be a carrier of it a plan switch
    which may not be infected themselves so to speak but would be the need to gain by animals could be

    00:46:35

    infected that’s what is a fascinating things um I would
    I would guess the number for audience of Dom experiment sometime in the childhood
    where they put food coloring in water and then put in some white
    white carnations are white flowers Natsu coloring in over a few hours that goes far
    flowers change colors in times blue to go to force you can see those right now
    and Myles blue carnations are not sure not true blue want some of the ones we have
    we have in Illinois or true blue carnations futari ok unfortunately

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    the prime protein is rhe much like that because it’s a very small
    very small particles in atoms and if it’s suspended in water in the dirt
    we have plants growing were brothers infection early cumulation of chronic wasting disease protein
    protein the plant can take a protein particles and then become infectious
    is part of the reason that we need to understand the normal transmission environment
    persistence to try to decrease the the contributions of those proteins
    things to do in vir mint and hopefully was the goal of the crease of your fertility for the up

    00:47:45

    the uptake of some of the things in the environment articles
    one thing I’m wondering about were talking you were talking earlier about the difficult
    call T of the proteins of jumping species
    season say for chronic wasting disease do the does the break out in another speech
    species at getting a case of mad cow disease we do cedar
    have that incident happening again a different disease with something spread by Prince
    proteins what happened there a fifth disease if the spreading of

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    proteins from a disease in one species to another so difficult
    what part of the is Mrs 2 issues goes back to one of our colors comics about genetic
    genetics so there is a small population of small sub center
    subset of humans were genetically susceptible and also you have to understand the number
    number of cases of mad cow disease what is Justin Norma’s hundreds of thousands of case
    cases of mad cow disease and we have a relatively small number of
    mad cow disease cases in humans in the hundreds so

    00:48:55

    I guess if you if you simply compare the numbers off of hundreds hundreds of thousands of cat
    the cattle that may have actually going to the human food supply versus the few
    the few hundred cases you have some estimate of the difficulty in jumping from one
    from one PC to another know if you want to the number of infected animal porn
    such a deer that may have been consumed the numbers very small compared to number
    number for cattle so this is a measure of the statistical probability
    probability of jumping is there anywhere in all the places were

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    deer populations have been found with chronic wasting disease other infections
    section rate has been say higher than the 5 percent off of
    tested on animals in Wisconsin actually there are some places in Colorado
    who were basically because it’s been a long time in and it was on control
    controlled because it was unrecognised for many years is the incidence is much higher ok
    Jay and that also races of questions this is zis at all that is always fatal
    fatal um is there any way for the disease Depeche Ensley play itself out

    00:50:05

    self out the population part of the reading answers really
    no because the disease when the movie comes sick disease
    zzzz can be transmitted for a long period of time many many months
    months before the animal actually died so its not like a disease that is
    acutely sale what has a long incubation period in a laundry infectivity
    well it sounds like even though we’ve found out something important from your study
    about the effectiveness of Illinois techniques to control chronic wasting disease

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    is it still something a little scary that’s going to be with us for a while long long
    long road to understand more about this disease
    20 both but both of my guest today I’m sorry that were out of time both researchers in the
    University of Illinois campus Nova test at the Illinois natural history survey
    and Professor agenda become ski with the Department of Animal Sciences welcome
    welcome any additional thoughts when you have about today’s program on our website go to will.illinois.
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