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In Battle against Asian Carp, the culinary solution

Have you, or would you, eat Asian carp for dinner? 

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The Army Corp of engineers recently proposed a barrier to keep Asian carp out of the Great Lakes. It would take more than two decades and billions of dollars to build. The time and money that would go into a project like that has long had some looking for other ways to control Asian carp populations. In Illinois, there has been a push to harvest Asian carp and market the fish as food. So far, fishermen and those trying to develop that industry have been met with skepticism.

Shawn Price has been fishing for Asian carp in Illinois waterways since 2009. While there’s a large market for the fish as a food product in Asia where the carp have been fished to near extinction, American consumers haven’t been as excited about eating it. Price says its all about perception. “You’re going to call me crazy when I say this, but I think Asian carp tastes like walleye. It’s not a bad fish to eat.”

This hour on Focus, Price joins Scott Cameron to talk about his role in helping the state to control Asian carp. Jim Garvey, a professor at Southern Illinois University who has been working with fishermen like Price, also joins us.  

Then, we’ll hear from Chef Philippe Parola,  who is based in Louisiana and has been working with restaurateurs, chefs and home cooks to teach people how to prepare Asian carp – which often sells for around $.50 per pound in Illinois.

Have you tried Asian carp? Would you? Why or why not? Give us a call this hour on Focus!

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    fisherman invasive Asian carp poses a direct threat
    the Great Lakes and their way of life to shuffle EP Corolla something different
    dinner music from the ugly ugly fish
    what come up with the night away

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    is the federal government poses multi billion dollar project to stop the Asian carps March
    search for Lake Michigan research shows the commercial fishing to play a significant role in fighting
    the spread of the fish if anyone buy a gun camera for taking the Great Lakes
    Irie branding Asian carp that’s coming up on focus after the snooze


    good morning mother to focus your own wiol im Scott Cameron singing for Gemini today

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    is everything Asian carp you know these are the big ugly fish in the rain vases
    last month Army Corps of Engineers proposed the number of options to stop the fish from investing
    the Great Lakes reticular 1 proposal permantly separate Lake Michigan from the Chicago River
    River Emeli 20 billion dollars back in 2010 Fishman working
    working for the state of Illinois caught in Asian carp in Lake Calumet that will be on the electric barrier
    septa stop to fish for getting too close to Lake Michigan entering the Great Lakes Sean price
    price is a commercial fisherman base in Fulton Illinois use the wonderful that fish out of water to snow

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    just now by phone Shawna welcome to focus hello how are you doing how you doing
    how you doing great so it I’m taking his 2010
    there was a problem in Asian carp removing up the towards the Great Lakes it was already
    already electric barrier in place there you’re taking part in a separate a watch for Asians
    Asian carp did you ever think you find one in Lake element um no
    the fault was that the probably wasn’t on Asian carp that existed above the barre
    barriers but um are job was to prove that

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    fat mom and I guess what happened was with prove that there was
    facing official of the barrier 97 single fish were there any others arms
    no I’m in so far no there’s been
    is bin a tremendous amount of effort put in
    how to locate another one how many different club Avenue
    avenues of of trying to locate a fish that what we do
    what we do is this the netting on this also been shocking

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    sampling with different types of nets Mets all sorts of
    efforts by Michigan pound that’s been used saying has been used
    and nothing come up with another fish and I don’t know the exact number but its
    but its its many many many miles off of net that has been laid
    late in around Lake Calumet and no other fishes been located 97
    good news another another want to come through there and also I guess you you call the one
    yeah um did you realize you mention of this this

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    this is onslaught of Africa try to find any more Indian Lake Elementary places nearby
    why when you put that thing on the water did you realize if I could have said be creating a canister
    Mr no no not at all um it was excite
    exciting to do it not knowing the impact that it would have
    I’m glad that I was the one long with my partner
    Iron Brown I was glad to be the one that um does that cost
    caught the fish but yes the the after effect was so much greater than I

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    anticipated DMV this week describe a fish is a big one
    yes it was so around 20 pounds and it was
    what we call a big head or black converse two different kinds of age in the sylvers
    is Argo on Centerville the type that jumping flying
    why in the air and that’s one thing but there are both Asian carp in the both of bases in the boat
    do a lot of eating um yeah it was a 20 pound fish
    fish and really caught as far up like Kelly Madison

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    what is you can go and we were done sampling for the day we actually had made it was actually Dexter
    extra set when we have the required amount of minutes we had to set we were done with that
    im Lexus trying out a couple extra nets and that’s when we got lucky
    futsum don’t know me to the mechlight is very serious
    is problem posed beige carpet many people saying and there’s real solutions try to care
    I take care of it but this is a great Christopher yeah yeah it should
    definitely a great for a story it’s definitely needle in a haystack

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    thing if you if you think about how much effort and how many people in how many organizations
    sons of been involved to try to find another fish anywhere above the barriers
    and that one fish vino almost 4 years ago now is the only
    the only fish still to been pulled up the ass its crazy I am so you talk about you
    about your putting up and that’s been doing all the difference to catch him
    musica fishing think of putting up the middle worm on a hook Asian carp eat plankton
    Canada buy nikon stuff how do you catch the fish Tom we use

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    used primarily gill nets um and donuts consist also a
    love travel Nets um Laden if the stuff you know
    are not serve 100 200 yards longer if they’re basically tangled
    that’s nice women they get caught the kick it out and that’s the stuff
    the effort covers much ground as you can but you’re also as a Fishman looking for a
    for a rheostat look im I can say fishy they look like a rheostat
    Woodhull fish and that’s how we get some typical Asian carp school

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    school up theres alot when you find some there’s a bunch of in a bun
    bunches of them so what’s your deal with something like that word is needle in a haystack all the time
    what time is it just enough for the puss much net in water as you can in um
    gogogo located whatever um area
    area you can tell your partner will work is working a DNR to harvest Asian carp
    are but water place where they at the Charles Way commercial fishermen what have you seen what have a sim card
    carbon to the to the fishing industry in the state of people

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    well for one I guess I can’t say that Asian carp necessarily a bad thing
    thing in the commercial fishing industry because it is given more opportunity
    um I guess presented another species
    Macy’s in other fish that that we can go after to make to make money
    what effects on the river have have been bad Tutera
    terrible umm when I first started Jason Asian carp some down and southern
    southern Illinois Festus Cape Girardeau best States to the river official

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    what this is probably going back to the late 90’s fish were still um healthy
    the look in your sort of healthy looking knowledge they done so much to destroy that food
    food chain to fish other than Asian carp Calvin that’s not the case and down there
    Dave strong headstrong I’ll just they don’t have the
    have the food that they want to live David out and have a sim card
    carpet anywhere near replacing does fishing terms did the people trying to make a living off this river
    rivers and lakes sure if you look at the Illinois River mom

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    how have to think really hard does to pick up a year for you but if you
    if you go back 20 when I was working at a fish market on back
    back in highschool with the fiscal of Illinois River we’re worth Buffalo cafe
    catfish carp now you hardly ever see a difference official EUC
    Lucy a few hundred pounds in a boat but not know you’re talking boatload of Asian carp
    carpet just a few other fishes Tolle reverse Illinois River from a
    standard rough faced girl from Buffalo catfish type 2 almost sold

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    soley Asian carp NFS the definition of invasive
    species other you mention Circle changes over the years and going back to Southern Illinois
    things that what what what are the changes that you seen in the numbers of fish in NEMO reef
    more recent years where where are there right now where they going
    I would say that it’s easier for for the expansion has a stop button
    I don’t know that it slowed down mercy in a few more fish in my section
    section of the Mississippi River now and then we ever have more than

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    can I have since I started fish in not going fast know whether recipe
    the temperature of the water to the dams I’m not really sure they proving they can go through
    damn pretty easy so I don’t know if that’s the sustain Factor but the further north
    Norfolk that the Asian carp go up a river the better they do
    just because they’re moving into new territory with new food in new
    eating opportunities but yes its changed anywhere they have grown in
    Ronan and big numbers is change the river and it doesn’t take long

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    within a few years and older 13 at food chain
    down to bare bones CNNSI continue moving north cumming
    area take over the food supply the other fish in area dwindled vanish
    should I will never stand in a move on a container much north until they hit something
    barriers are being built in mit stop them really slow down
    right and all of those sell yourself short
    commercial fishing has definitely slow the progression

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    pressing down we can’t fish north of believe the 180 bridges
    Illinois on the Illinois River aunt catfish south
    south of their own the blacks or the the big head Asian carp
    are there numbers are drastically reduced um stuff to go down there
    catchable look for it used to be for leaving I’m in position has done that are black
    laxer typically the catch easier to catch they don’t the don’t jump over
    normally um and they they do school up the sylvers

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    are so powerful blow through the net so will black but you can still kind of container
    silver jump over go around it through it and it doesn’t stop
    stop this isn’t lets let’s get keep the heading of the directions to talk about the
    fishing these niggs want to propose a came up Springfield Garvey in the
    the conversation here is interim vice chancellor for research professor the Department of Southern Illinois
    Illinois University iPhone Gym thank you noe
    what you heard Im Sean Tony story there mention that the commercial fishermen have really been fishing down

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    down this population of Illinois and other places you can talk to do a research project in
    2012 the temperature quantify the Asian car problem and proposed solutions
    among the solutions exactly that wrap up commercial production of fish is catching eat it
    can you talk about the church what is the a project that were involved in
    is working in the upper Illinois River and assessing the affects of commercial fishing
    non exempt status US is commercial fishing have an impact on
    don the car problem affair Chicago Adam

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    dumb so has a fisherman work really hard and I do Wendy’s fish out
    shout we do is qualified a lot of different ways the number to car battery
    in the various pools backwaters up in that area
    handjob what we found is that the there is an FM pack
    fishing does reduce the sessions Factor fishermen are so good at doing this
    take the fish out how much does fast is a Cummins problems
    this is kind of like a sandbox in elegy is where you dig a hole

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    and um FSU can a dick get home to take the fish out
    more come back if im coming from lower river so
    um you know it’s a Shore Thing where is the date that come and they start
    are filling up that that hole and then very difficult to to stop it up without barrier
    um and I know they haven’t moved all the way up to the bear
    superior arias far as we can tell right now um take for whatever reason
    theme to stop gamble at 18 Bridgeville were not exactly sure what it is

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    what’s keeping him from doing now that’s for the next Giants question worth
    building a fairly large populations it wasn’t for commercial fishing
    fishing there now but the issue with something
    commercial fishing the upper river is at its finest by federal funds to come to the States
    state of Illinois does a contractor fisherman because
    how to take apart of the river where is it is allowed in the lower portion of the river start
    Starbucks damn and um so I’ve been a proponent that

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    I believe that we done at the stop the
    Sam from continuing movie up towards the Chicago area
    no more barriers or more commercial fishing going on down south
    will probably reduce the propensity face streaming
    show up that sandbox for gas in Charlotte NC with your experiences
    juicing is for you be going to one area you start a fish the population movement area
    Ariana said you want to purchase going up and down the rivers of yes

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    I believe most of that to next it except the what we called
    we call the frontline the upper the upper part of the Asian carp movement like
    what we call a stablished population on a river
    Jim would probably agree that we have basically cut back
    back that that frontline drastically if you look at the upper pole
    purple that we we pull on big numbers official of the the numbers
    drastically at the upper end of that the frontline off of that car

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    Kurt movement known as you go down a river toward STAAR rock
    um the number of blacks have been greatly reduced we still catch the sylvers
    we were catching hum may be the same number but it’s because work
    hitting that area harder and not the upper arias much but yes I mean
    there’s no doubt we reduce the numbers um and there’s no doubt that new fish movie
    the area given time I think I’m at the front line we are little above
    I’m a little better than

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    the fish we catch up that many more commin I think we’re a little head of that at that upper
    the upper and NFC are the people really worried about it over and keep mice out of the Great Lakes
    things because once I get there tonight? Some different in their b***
    two states its making a clear difference there is helping to stop the your money back for just one second
    different types of me say Asian carp UMich a couple different varieties what women with Asian carp
    um when we say carpal talking about Pope
    the whole population of silver sand and the black cross breeding going on

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    really long name for them other than hybrids um but yeah there’s the silver
    silver jumping Asian carp in a nurse what we call these is a laxative big heads
    the both of them both phases are both plankton feeders for both
    very aggressive invasive species
    Cindy with talk about how your Ontario working with a DNR others there’s not a tumor
    commercial fishing allowed many the reason is Rivers what is an effort to stop these um
    alarming certain amount of this right now can a commercial fishing

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    operation make a living off of fishing Asian carp
    2000 yes with a stable
    Sabal palm market if it is possible in there are few guys doing
    doing it now who who so you can say yes we’re talking a few guys a handful
    pull up a dozen 1215 guys it best to are truly making a living off
    Asian carp um to do to increase
    reset number it would have to be a stable market and an ongoing market

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    what I mean by that is when the Fisher easy to catch you can drop price
    when you have to always be able to sell the fish if you open markets or a market
    market that can hold handle as many fish that come through the doors as
    Fishman can catch the opportunities will be greater might not last forever
    because I think physicians would reduce the numbers to where you can no longer
    make a living but yes if the price of fish went up a little bit
    little bit and you could selfish 24 hours a day 7 days a week the absolutely

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    Lee Summit Missouri plies the moment 2
    if you ever questions about Asian carp if you have direct experience of the fish
    few minutes with the chef who is made it really his mission to change people’s minds about the special talk about
    talk about it commercial fishing an opportunity to be able to cut into the population to try to prevent from moving
    Great Lakes mother arias call 802 to 2945
    4550 drops will dash talk at Illinois .edu
    Ross on Twitter at focus 580 Gym cardio connect you for a minute

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    can you tell how big of a threat are Asian carp right now I’m thinking
    invasive species a general are are are a threat to
    Ohio aquatic systems um hey now you’re talking about a zebra mussels
    Bulls in a wife in all these are the different species that have caused
    cause of kinds of problems in the Great Lakes as well as in the rivers of the US in the late
    Lakes of the lakes um so your visa species are always a really tough
    problem because they can come in and have to medically negative potential impact

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    um the issue with Asian carp his thumb
    we’re talking about the species that they were introduced in the US back in the early
    early 70’s brought in for clean up waste water
    ponds and also has a potential physicians well
    well they skatetown in Easley movie waa up threw up the Mississippi
    River basin in Illinois River in the late 90’s early 2000’s
    people to pay much attention to them even when they’re up they’re Peoria really started the

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    get close to Chicago that start with media issues
    came up because they’re getting close to the Great Lakes the the million million dollars
    question is what I get into the Great Lakes in a to say this in and I know that
    what to talk about keeping about us some they are going to get in the Great Lakes Dave
    they have been occasionally found the Great Lakes another Asian carp all the grass carp
    and I’ll be free common carp are there already I’m happy I would say
    LifeWay some big headed babies and silver carp in the oven

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    the Great Lakes right now to start in Texas
    probably not population the question is
    is what I do if they can make a population stabilization
    actually have no that is the Illinois River modified tiny animals
    animals called soap lighten up and talk about that earlier that is open
    gotten considerably smaller and how much every fish in the sea
    insect larvae and everything else Relion does tiny animals for sale plankton

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    is food so when the harp take that away from them to have a negative impact
    best to get to the Great Lakes to do the same thing that you can have a fax something
    things like that sleep of yellow perch of Hell wife with your Dell support
    Portland get your check for things so um yeah its a real friend we don’t want to
    what’s the population get in there fil A Song
    that’s us we gotta stop it in Mercer fishing probably the best way to
    places that you met you before the barriers nothing to what what else has been trying so far to

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    how to stop the spread of the Asian carp the problem is that really don’t have a silver bullet right now
    right now there’s nothing that targets other than commercial fishing much does a really good job
    good job target bighead carp and crafts
    grass carp fish species are out there what’s up
    there’s really no poison that you can use that practice test Asian carp
    Irvine talk about Trojan Jean how much is you
    GN to the males in the Asian carp in the male celebrities male

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    Leah LaBelle population size of a stranger than playing with his fur
    for decades with common car problems Australian have to work out for a while
    um have another how does technology that has been explored
    words using these things called water cast iron a shirt without a face
    is Highland water and credit concussion underwater what if
    technically supposed to do is it takes to swim bladders calf letters in the fish the used
    the used oil and explode doesn’t hurt

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    jawbone carpenters that because I have very strong and ladders so it doesn’t help
    help with the fish don’t like it I mean it is one of the research with doing up near the sea
    Chicago area is looking at the FFA series water cut off if you
    freshens out does it make the car turn around and go back to a river and end
    yes it does and so that’s that’s another
    where does having sex on other aquatic life in area yeah Usher
    usher.com

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    carpet are going to turn around lb walleye soccer of such a species
    she said are not going to like that that would be used as a whole
    turn around potential conduit fish movie
    good spot to rock Lock and Dam um they seem to the carpet
    polyp look at them um and we have some evidence for movement
    is it that it does at times on keep fish from the streets they can still get through
    threw up but not very often Sophia places like block certain areas

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    area that might be a good place to get to have a local affected if I could have a general facts
    family attorney for engineers not too long without a couple of
    I don’t think of recommendation a couple possible the proposal video
    that would involve billions and billions of dollars decades
    how to build in do some pretty big feet of Engineering im so in many ways to
    the immediate thing right now is the word talking about you’re trying to fish
    fish them if not out of existence completely then at least the point where the population control

    00:24:25

    rollable is Shonda YouTube
    what you do with the Department of Natural Resources here is harvesting the fish what what does that mean
    that mean what you doing right now how what we’re doing with MS
    koi fish for the day um Dollar fish
    oarfish back to a refrigerated a refrigerated semi trailer and weight
    download them on with take time to count 30 of each BC
    species the silver the Black Cat Scratch character also included in a 30

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    30 slot Amway weight and measure with the help of the DNR
    when are on a 30 of each species and then we on load everything in the summer
    the semi trailer 1130 gives a star weight
    weight estimate for the day the year everyone look at it and our number
    Testament are they going to the trailer in the visually at the end of the week does OOTD or whenever the semi
    the semi trailers for the go back to Shaffer’s fish market to be turned into
    Organic fish fertilizer fish fertilizer cities these particular Asian carp in a table

    00:25:35

    the soul for food um no to my knowledge I think there’s still working on that
    Matt naam as far as I know if we are still there still
    I’m just for pleasure in others are have you ever
    yes what is the flight amazingly good I think if
    if somebody was had the Forsyte years ago to name these fish
    silver salmon or something something to that if you actually more appetizing Sonic
    yes because um I’ve had both the silver

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    in the black and both amazing taste amazing texture
    I’m not a big fish ear but I’m going to put Asian carp of both species right
    is right up with walleye um and I can prove that pretty easy it’s a very white
    white very flaky meat very mild um you look at that fish in think it would taste
    taste this fishes you can get a lot of people really like woah
    that I’m on being very honest man I’m headed to earth
    who are three or four different ways and I haven’t had the way that’s not good its very

    00:26:45

    very simple the cookout had a simple song is on the girl with little bit of butter and seasoning
    what is POS planes you can get it was it was excellent that way
    um Yellowcard name has has done um no
    oh no favors for the delicacy in the me that believes right there
    my top two or three fish that I would even any given day in India
    Jimmy agree player and many other country is a delicacy
    minutes bin nearly 15 the existence in the number of countries

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    weather Sean price of thank you very much is Sean a commercial fisherman bass in Fulton Illinois
    service part of a group of fishermen paid by the state of Illinois to help harvested keep an eye on monitor
    monitor for Asian carp Ashanti understand you were going to be on the show thank you very much for doing
    do not talking about no problem thank you thank you a gym garbage dinner invite chance of research professor
    professor Department of Geology at Southern Illinois University apartment research team that deliver
    including fishing commercial fishing to cut down the Asian carp population area
    Mary a Gemini place to stick with here I were talking about the problem of an Asian carp invasive

    00:27:55

    invasive species continue to threaten the Great Lakes of a talking about at least one potential solutions
    fishing Asian carp if possible distance in Illinois
    conceal a conversation about how does fish taste some of the barriers trying to get people to accept
    accept them in in a bit different ways to Pearl a talk with his efforts to build
    the market for Asian carp by convincing other shifts to serve it stay with its focus on WI
    WRAL welcome back to focus on Wilo
    im Scott Cameron singing Virgin metals today we are talking about the problem of Asian carp invasive

    00:28:30

    is a species that continues to head towards the Great Lakes somebody ever to being done to stop it
    I was on the phone with Jim Garvey and replace chancellor for research professor in the Department of Geology
    Southern Illinois University take a big role in trying to determine Ali how many
    the water is near by the weather doing what you’re up to how to stop them
    including one real solution is going on right now is commercial fishing
    talking about here with us chef Felipe Pirela was also been very involved in the
    and not trying to change perceptions the special Olivia go to the phones right now I’m le is on the line

    00:29:05

    flights to LA from Champaign IL ego head to your phone
    hi thank you for taking Michael I want to the point Athens
    nautical in the Wall Street Journal on January 29th Actually quotes
    Chancellor on Garvey I’m talking about a number
    plants 11 in Wickliffe Kentucky that actually has
    has remained the fish Kentucky white in RR selling them frozen
    um to China another one as mentioned in Thomson Illinois

    00:29:40

    Illinois which Illinois frozen to 16 countries
    turns into also to products in the United States is another company another plan
    plants being opened in Grafton Illinois that’s going to process
    16000 pounds of carpet de papel 2
    how to turn it into fish oil dietary supplements etcetera
    this morning this is a mansion what is so these are coming on
    online and they say that the market in China is very white

    00:30:15

    so this is this seems to be a
    what should I say to a spirit to to us solve this
    this problem questions to ask how fast it’s going to take off
    take off um I don’t see much about selling it here but that’s I suppose with chef
    the talk about thank you for that thank you for the leading let me go ahead
    thank you for calling ilen the chef liberalism a line with us about working change perceptions about a
    about Asian carp Ian Chappell Enterprise in Baton Rouge Louisiana to the show

    00:30:50

    welcome A appreciate invitation Garvey
    how are you great chef how you doing good I’m good to know each others running the same circle
    circles yeah we are we have met a few years back when I was up there
    doing something and 7 product the exchange in Cup
    superfan cake yes he feet swell he’s a good good chef
    what is a permit to go back to tally the car because her from her champagne HFH
    dimensions you know it sounds like people trying to build an industry of this your part of the effort can you talk about

    00:31:25

    CSI II know the history of export
    on the fish is a all that Mike Shaw perfume shop for fishing will tell you
    it’s a pretty Dangerous account that you can t control
    business concept on the other hand when Im gone
    I’m going to talk about is what I am doing and out the domestic mall
    market about Miss fish number one wholesale
    goldfish hear uh have very little value of a domestic market

    00:32:00

    must be processed and when I say processed meaning need to be turning
    returning to value added products need to be sustainable meaning
    that’s the fisherman need to make a good living for them to go out there
    Sean with Santa stables market of course I would a stable market
    everything is good is not that easy so you have to start somewhere
    and a stable market efficient market is definitely the key
    solution to the problem what distance is poison from it when you say you can’t control the market

    00:32:35

    Texas table market what what does that mean when you can control the export more
    market you know when you make a shipment out number 1800 the the
    the big booty work the Chinese I know that
    love the fish but they don’t pay much money in that the fact and not enough to pay the fish
    fisherman to be able to get gear and Bowden going up there and spend the money that
    that need to be spent a gas station make a good leaving a job
    understand that the fisherman all the key to the spa commercial fish

    00:33:10

    fisherman absolutely and I truly believe tour my troubled Indian so many different state
    state because let’s face it there in call box from you guys always down 2
    to the Louisiana and almost the Gulf of Mexico sub uses AA really need you that
    do that that is a nationwide issues in the fisherman commercial
    commercial fishery here and an open order last scene bilberry few
    if you out there active and I hate it and it says this be madness
    diminishing and you have to sell mouse have a concept to bring some new blood

    00:33:45

    blood on board to get this thing going on you you have come to Illinois
    other states you met with a chef’s to deliver this message to David Karp is is good eating
    how do chefs respond when you come at me that you mention yourself is a big ugly fish
    well no I never said it’s a big fish videos
    ugly ugly invasive fish in your arms around me and it don’t come easy
    ugly fish okay okay I pray that I never called ugly OK
    okay to people respond when you’re bringing your number one on the chef

    00:34:20

    chefs they are and I am one of them across many lines no more involved in food
    football food marketing but I have so many years in a human being
    been to a really busy kitchen in a restaurant
    the chef LBZ and I bought a fish that to me
    too many ships in your engine died in trouble been made fun places
    what does the question of the same tube
    to Bonnie and is too difficult to work to time consuming so

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    understanding this is very difficult to have the whole fish
    itself marketable to the chef business of the restaurant business
    and that’s a fact so it would be ended up being alone
    a little bit of activity where few chefs in Chicagoland area
    the dinner special when teething what the buck stop that
    simply because it’s too time consuming 22 really work with
    the hand that Sean said it this fish is absolutely

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    The Incredibles delicious and have some very good
    value so for human consumption when you when you look at the fish
    NNU understand that 80 percent 25 percent of what we eat is empty
    imported from China Vietnam from China and the fish
    future we receive let’s face it in everybody knows that is not a belfie
    the company nated with blue tint in excess of positive that need to be said
    beset on the other hand we have a fish you that is extremely good ok and femme

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    simply because it’s been classified as a non visits pieces
    ok and and that’s also affect people afraid they think that
    that’s okay it’s it’s it’s you know its trash fish nn
    and I would never called is fish a Glee that fish look like a fish
    fish interview with a girl who played on happy feet Wings
    things all four eyes always don’t have any Blu ray deleted scene
    ugly fish believe me but that to me look like pretty much is salmon with

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    maybe this president of the eye is going down to build a mouth but besides that it’s a very
    very beautiful and you said you know it is a marketing problem here and you have not
    you have not for the Citizen carpe you have a different name for this waltz Aaliyah
    Sean sette years ago and silver fan well that I’m the one who came up with the Philippines
    name something that was the first uh things that need to be done
    the first priority is to Ave name is busy
    it’s been done before for all the fish the pumping Houston

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    do space one Spencers know is the Chilean Sea Bass and sense that got Market
    market at UNC bass mean look on the menu everywhere I go
    when you started the market at 45 dollars to pounds
    talking about 20 to 25 dollar pound um so
    does working and end up things in people’s mind if they refill that to another
    another does the name of the new income panties Asian
    is there a mine and shut the f*** up im talking

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    Tamara preparation to Jim Kirby from its connected to hear some f***** clinic
    Illinois Department of resources said you’re creating a a big multi million dollar
    fishery industry around Asian carp is dangerous what do you make them
    think that it’s complicated issue of there was a pain
    the paper that my group came out with just a year ago so fat
    is the prefix to kid modeling to show that
    how hard you fish these these fish for sale in Illinois River

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    the reproductive rate is so cuddly hi there pretty resilience to a lot of fish
    fishing and effect to completely eradicate since you’ve got to work really hard at it
    and I think to see a public defender Stan that they’re going to probably be
    how to be here to stay how much were going to do about it other than the fact that we can reduce their numbers
    first to the point where the ecosystem rebound probably last date of fishes
    is breathing room and I’ll keep them control to the point where may be there
    maybe they will have the capacity of streams much tour Chicago Wheatley think is the water coming

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    coming down for Chicago nothing to say bad about Chicago but they don’t like it
    the only reason why the movie upstream is because I’m looking for more breeding
    because they’re so crowded down street so we can get the fishing industry to really kick in
    chicken and them in the southern part of your heart River have an impact on them
    I’m not saying they were going to have the Menace come out Grace’s table fishing
    I don’t worry about that never been official has been
    captain’s table of but I think you’re going to still get biomass out of these fish

    00:39:35

    fish don’t forget its not just Illinois River there everywhere in the Mississippi River
    River early Ohio rivers in Missouri River the spreading of girls on Lake
    Lakes of reservoirs of people use for recreation and the
    populations are extremely on variable they say when your to have a back your classes
    pastel freeze alot of babies next year millions of about their
    so I got a plan is up we created fisheries
    associate with a lot of other fish so on this one seems like it’s probably a pretty logic

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    1 to the creators well you don’t you don’t you insert a minute I’m reading writing to the disruptor
    Frances Bean credit central stat you know companies others may want to create an ongoing
    going industry on Redland trying to get rid of it interviewing is invasive species are trying to create
    greatest rihanna is you set a sustainable industry that’s not a concern I don’t think so I think it’s time
    I think it’s sort of thing words from its a 10 hair appointment
    does there and get a resource that for whatever reason we don’t necessarily
    curly like what we have to do something about it and quit Frank leave a lot of invasive species

    00:40:45

    species have some values to them um answer the the issue is the slope
    how do we make use of that I rather than to say after having my gosh to do about it
    Jimmy question from the gym by email
    the bald eagles have returned in large numbers along the Illinois River North fm
    chill a coffee I’m sorry for what does the Eagle eat the Asian carp
    is that a reason for the return of the bird that region do you know that umm that won’t turn Southside
    how fat is probably the reason Eagles returns because they were knocked out by

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    Perris, we use in the 60s 70s every person and firemen are finally starting
    starting line the point where the bald eagles reproductive rate is high after taking rebel
    other spreading throughout the US in back of throat accessory for Friday
    Friday reasons that the issues yes the fish and all yeah definitely
    Asian carp we find in a lot of different as a bird
    a species that eats fish Asian carp are a part of the diet now
    um as well as a to fish is so yeah I mean not can I link that is easy

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    the increase in a bald eagle find out more data and b***
    correlation is okay we’re talking with Jim Garvey of a chance
    research pressure Department Southern Illinois University with chef Lee paper roll A
    Madonna Baton Rouge Louisiana about Asian carp for the problem and one of the potential solutions
    this is in place already what is fishing the fish
    heavily in a potential employer ID number is 800 222
    2945 fiber that email there at the wilderness talk at Illinois

    00:42:30

    u.edu and chef parola send email hear from Achilles as a couple places
    places here in this area in Champaign Urbana amazingly good catfish sandwiches Farm cafe she says is
    what is a dirty fish he says it sounds like Asian carp in make even better sandwiches
    absolutely anybody won that that
    I want to work with this fish is in a can of flu
    lose the quantities fishy superior and Sean say that to me
    Tumi repair it s like Krabby America

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    very clean a very beautiful color and uh OHS its
    you can be so creative with this version making so many different dishes
    and I try very hard to get the ships on board what do to get this market going
    going in that sweetie? Here is to be able
    be able to have the product that is suitable for the restaurant industry
    and the US consumers and how you doing a bunch of bones and other things how do you do it well
    well that’s what I’ve been working and we we we found live all all business and marketing plan

    00:43:40

    plan a few months ago literally YouTube
    mature enough for 24 year to do this but I take some innovative
    technology um definitely
    some food science involve and it says was not that easy again
    again no by removing the bones and crew
    and creatine Beach Belle United products from this fish that fish body fish cake
    fishbowl at the there so many different recipes I can be applied to it

    00:44:15

    and having this product cater to the American consumers and cleaning
    putting the restaurant industry the caver the cruise liners in and men’s salon
    who own on the silver thing brand name absolutely
    weeded old is marketing testing we we we achieve all that we made for the station to the
    into the largest food distributor here who wants to be exclusive on the product
    sexually so we have done all work Ewing we ready to go
    again this fish holder need to be understood the special domestically

    00:44:50

    Stickley have very little value simply because it’s so difficult to work and you must have
    must be going you must be going to a processing mechanisim
    bad will take the fish in the bones out and create a product
    and that’s not easy okay so did you think of it being and you know restaurants things like that
    is processing ua vs see a day with a specially service in restaurant
    2 hardened do the bones well with a boner
    question yeah no no very very going to happen

    00:45:25

    the process in which year
    but I know it will be a very little
    activity for up the good work but not enough to really
    really making them back and agree with Jim Garvey when you said that the fish are everywhere
    well that’s for sure once again we have a big problem
    hello yes I am and 2 did acacia
    NBC shagri was Jay McGuiness going to happen but the control

    00:46:00

    population of of the Asian cop where ate the limited
    the threat of the nation Cup toward native species all them
    system of fact that can be done and to do that
    that is to add a consistent stable market and eggs
    angry wish on again with guys to work 7 days a week
    5 days a week I don’t want to be 7 days a week 5 days a week and bases with H
    who is a base price that they are compatible with then

    00:46:35

    then it’s a go there is no doubt about 25 billion dollars to build
    build dams are on the Great Lakes we are thinking about 10 million dollar average
    pretty close to it a 10 million dollar food processing plant the fish place
    processing plant of food processing plant the process fish now I know
    I know that the atom and I know that buy DVDs
    Fish Market fish but again Fish Market on limited
    they only can sell these fish whole food processing is like food science

    00:47:10

    science and away it’s very difficult to achieve you have to be extremely knowledgeable and you have to have
    how to have it is well so to make fish
    Craigslist work you got to have yet to create the demand with
    with a product of a product that is sustainable that will cover all the cost
    meeting and I say that as a priority
    including paying the fisherman the right amount of money interesting apps
    Neptune number types of dishes made out of the dog

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    dog people are waiting for literally and end with a of all of the fish
    the skin and bones and and the actually yeah you know about
    there’s a group at 165 Jamaica 3 will taking the whole fish tank cycle Macon
    Omega 3 that silly because of processing to do that is expensive
    pensive very expensive in text I’m the building of the fish in the flesh
    the face on the old is a rhombus can we could definitely work with this girl
    this group to ship old is king in the ad for them to extract

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    AOL and and make it a big puffy because you don’t have to tube
    who run this fish so long to extract oil into beast
    mechanics of the use of options other religions
    back to you in a little bit run time what is ongoing on other fish is going to be here to stay
    beer stay for awhile what could be done to improve the population of the native fish so they can
    can the better compete with these car primer things can be done to in around the Riverbend
    the river to prove that that have to get a lost her way in some ways by date

    00:48:55

    partition carp invasion Illinois River still has problems
    crazy altered primarily due to
    is a lot of fun losses in with a pharmacy a good job with self conservation
    ration we still design of a lot of swell down Illinois River Valley
    Elite hull truth and other industries and that’s causing loss
    los is a cripple backwater Aires Airport for fish in water fell for example
    and influencing tire productivity the Illinois River as well as other

    00:49:30

    problems with other rivers that we have um head so if we don’t pay attention to the
    the watershed level scale issues that are affecting our fish
    are fish and other populations of organisms that are out there
    purpose of the equation for stuffing have the same problems we had 20 years ago
    dealing with and so it begins
    we need to focus on bus the carpet vanish you have a negative
    competitive sex with a need to be up on Penn Station water pollution

    00:50:05

    Nation lack of a variance of half
    aspects of the river enters the to shape and size S word
    so I know that I’ll be seized not in the conversation right now that needs to be put back into the
    Asian man so much more holistic approach sounds like to be looking at the Riverside
    River system as a whole note is trying to take off one problems time is it happens come up and wait for the next from neuron
    Verizon easy restoration part of the deal Rivers jewelry and yellow
    has a long long history of being a Wonderful commercial fishery used to be full of freshwater

    00:50:40

    freshwater mussels um they’re not there anymore because even for much
    sedimentation as a different religion was 100 years ago
    really nice to see it come back to that paper Illinois and 3G
    should say that the question can i buy email from Leupold Leupold thank you for that? Have to leave it there
    is there a gym Garvey little teen from SI unit for the 2012 report phishing down the big head
    big head and silver carp to join us today by phone chef Felipe Pirela on shuffle enterprise
    Enterprise in Baton Rouge Louisiana join us from there by phone fra is going to be in

    00:51:15

    in this area East Peoria for the flying fish festival in both fishing tournament
    that’s in July so you want to see him and take Parts Somerset going to try to catch the other fish
    will be in on July 12 of this year thank you for joining us focus
    Lindsey moon Jason Crawford Texas director Ryan Weber is our intern Scott County
    virgin Meadows this is focus on WILL