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Encore: Understanding Personality Tests

Have you ever taken a personality test to see what it says about you? Today on Focus, we find out what they actually measure and what we can and can’t learn from them.

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The International Society for Arboriculture uses the "True Colors" personality test. Employees keep their colors on puzzle pieces outside their door in the office.

The International Society for Arboriculture uses the "True Colors" personality test. Employees keep their colors on puzzle pieces outside their door in the office.

Personality tests inform hiring selections, career paths, dating options and any number of other decisions in business, academia and culture. But what do personality tests actually measure, and do our personalities change over time? Why do we seem to love to taking personality tests so much? This hour on Focus, we'll listen back to a conversation host Jim Meadows had with Professor Brent Roberts about the science, popularity and limits of personality tests. Cindy Harris, a human resources manager, from the International Society of Arboriculture also joins the program. The Champaign-based organization says using the “True Colors” personality test has been really helpful in its workplace culture.
 
Have you taken a personality test? Did you find it useful or useless? Do you have questions about how it scored you? Give us a call this hour on Focus!
 

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    we use personality test to figure out which career is best suited for
    which job applicant a higher which person to ask on a date how to have a laugh online
    online finding out which Harry Potter character bios how well do personality
    how to work what is a really measurement how to be checked in for accuracy

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    imagine dragons focus on talking University of Illinois psychology professor
    French Roberts science popularity in limits personality test
    real world human resources manager
    which personality test cheetah pants on and why
    wyll
    are program continues after the news
    good morning I’m Gym Meadows this is focus wyll you listening to an encore

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    encore broadcast of a previous focus program why were not taking calls
    this or you can join our conversation on Facebook and Twitter at focus 5
    584 Facebook page and focus 5800 find link
    link to a Downton Abbey personality quiz and answer me just a few Quay
    if you questions will tell you which Downton Abbey character you are for the record I am
    dyamin a Smith headhouse made it downtown in the words of the quiz basically the best employee
    Chloe ever also my kindness and loyalty to be admired and that bass fellowship

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    should really recognize when I catch IM my producer Lindsey moon to the quiz she
    is Lady Sybil Crawley the most likely to end up at a political rally try and help
    help with server do a better job are scandaleyes her sisters by wearing pants to a party
    party so now you know something new about both of us but there are a lot of places
    is of that type 0 just for fun however real personality testing
    is serious business with a lot of carrots pension creating a test
    North alot writing on the result when your test today Sedition a focus we welcome you

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    questions about personality testing and your experiences with it is well
    email last will dash talkin Illinois dot edu later in the program
    programmable talk about the science behind personality testing with University of Illinois
    psychology professor Brent Roberts right now what’s a good looking help personality testing
    testing is used in the real world for instance by an employer the International Society
    Society of Arboriculture serves the tree care industry from its main offices in Champaign
    champagne where it has a staff of more than 40 according to the website Cindy Harris

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    Paris is the societies human resources manager and cheese with us today and focused
    talk about how personality testing is used in the workplace city welcome to focus
    focus thank you very much and um I was just wondering and mom
    um um am i right thinking that influence just looking for certain things
    personality test for certain questions if you need answers for
    um this particular personality tests work is the
    fantasy how this individual Mike file into the total composition of the workforce ok

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    okay so there so it’s been so its so to specific information
    you don’t need to like everything about a person acceptance really have a holiday
    how did they do at work that is correct looking at what
    what may be there natural abilities were and down to take a quote from Kim Collins
    trying to put the first fight at the right person on the right seat on the bus
    is is this the test that you do like doing the job interview process is a day is done later
    later in the later in someone’s employment as well I do I do it during the day

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    interviewing process it’s an interactive a segment of DNA
    the interview about 20 minutes okay it’s so if you can play a role in the end
    the weather not a person get tired it is one of many factors
    . I really have to wait on the behavioral based interview
    promises bad that I have more likely Ave of your car
    behavior can be more for reflection of your future behavior at the debate the
    the true colors profile kind of gives me a compass

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    SI where I might want to ask for the appropriate competencies for the position
    ok the true true colors at the name of the big ticket to type of test that you use that’s correct
    why did you choose off of all the ones that are available why do you want to
    what is a what is your employer use the true colors test actually true
    true colors was selected prior to my rifle rich as a human Reaper
    source professional finding an organization that I just at the value
    are you about the individuals at and cumming together to get things done I was pretty

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    pretty impressed Beckham true colors II vs quite a few Obama
    Myers Briggs the desk and I love them in a classroom setting
    acting and disgusting facts had been very successful Indiana
    being able to find them at and there’s something about the simplicity of the true colors
    colors model that that I’ll give you the ability to actually
    Reata pride in the workplace etiquette Sesay a common language
    how to use when where I’m trying to improve communication office of Catholic

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    how long does it take to get to do I take the true colors test
    its like I said I do it within 20 minutes with interactive
    there’s a card sort which tends to be kind of fun and sulfur does candle wax
    don’t let the the fine for you it is research based at as valid and reliable
    reliable tool but then and then there’s 5 simple work Westerners
    and and and you have your hair color profile OKC
    is a card sort Sol a persimmon look at a variety of cards of some type

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    we we start looking at the in a dress and what they might indicate about a Acer
    Acer up at color in the spectrum and then there is that language
    back descriptors um and I get the opportunity and then they kind of a
    life in order most like them to like them okay so the person taking the test
    Tesla search describing himself through the test correct
    does is testing tell you what sort of what responsibilities a person may be good with so what’s the price
    the person they work best with a definitely is key indicator

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    Decatur’s into um there’s some folks there very action oriented
    stakers fat fat orange in a profile and a bruising
    using oranges tend to be very creative a make sure you also got your gold collar
    which tends to be the structure and organization of skills that you know
    Asian with need an and then Greenville dental X & Y
    sand and soil getting a group of people that can perform the duties and
    responsible for socialization groups ok does everybody get to know them

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    no the results of the test absolutely absolutely is it ok if an
    if I ask you about how you did oh na na na
    assessment and up so I am a combination of orange and blue
    blue and with an association if you came and you would see puzzle pieces out
    outside of everybody’s at office cubicle that that is a visual
    display of their colors everybody knows everybody that bad
    because that sound and once again when you come up and put someone

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    someone and I know that there gold in nature are primary colors
    some clothes so so so it sounds like you love it does
    employees generally find is testing helpful and helps him understand
    Nazism cells but the other coworkers is well that that’s fit the valley of the tool
    tool override buy the whole concert
    people are complex and and that’s that’s some
    that’s the next part of it is is how far you can take this texting app

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    people are complex this is a very simple model II
    IAIA use a couple and allergies one of them being the GPS vs
    versus the compass okay this is more of a compass juicing
    this is the compass and it if you really want to Holiday Inn on somebody’s press
    preferences ok do you
    do you re test employees after a few years are is the first test of the only test
    um we have not implemented Airy testing also we do

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    do do a refresher training and then periodically the entire
    half a workshop and sew a half a workshop at does getting place
    the opportunity to be tested there there’s um I wanted to
    2.3 reactions within the spectrum okay so maybe a little shift
    shift overtime flight shifting bad side
    this be if they’re really focusing on there in 8
    tendencies things that you’re more last born with vs learned

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    um you’re going to see that it’s hump what’s in there
    nature and I like to compare writing it with your dominant hand
    hand vs your non dominant hand okay okay
    it’s pretty natural to write with your dominant hand which would be more
    more beer your personality traits how ever I am I can switch hands in overtime
    what im get pretty good okay so in the same
    same thing with with things with in your nature okay so you can

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    can you can you can you can learn new patterns of doing things absolutely
    ifile Perry low INR spectrum and the golden one of the best compliments I get my work places
    is there gold
    common language what year was okay how about no
    I fink you said earlier that you’ve you print from your own experience you think this test
    really works better is more useful in the workplace in some of the other
    some of the other personality test I’ve never

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    never seen it so easily adapt it and in right to the UK
    you can actually apply it up like I said I’m I’m a big proponent of the Myers
    Briggs exist you get 3 months out after taking the test and its really only a ham
    cancel the people from my experience that can remember with her profile is
    okay to fire what is this kid but in this case it sits
    it’s pretty clear to everybody there’s something about the color spectrum
    and then encouraging people to become more versatile in the spectrum

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    bactrim with their interactions with other fact that you can definitely apply
    okay what’s up sounds like you’re saying that this is this is this is a useful test
    test for ranging people in the workplace as long as you know what the limits of the tests are
    star exactly um you do not want to label
    Abel people because people are complex okay well
    well City Harrison wanted to thank you very much for taking the time to talk to us
    about to about a person at now the testing works in your workplace and again

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    Cindy Harris is the human resources manager at the International Society of abhor
    abhor culture in Champaign send a thank you again for talking with us your very welcome
    this is focus on a wyll mg medicine with talking
    talking about personality testing and how it works and why
    why its used in what the sciences behind if I want to turn out to itemize
    my second guessed here on the program and he has to deal with all those questions is a professor
    psychology at the University of Illinois Dr Brent Roberts I was actually

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    this program several years ago with the talking to David and about the science
    sofía personality in glad to have you back on the program again love you back
    okay you heard that description of off of personality
    personality testing and I take it there for just in the workplace
    place where are the other tests after do they work on Seminole wind
    signs are there different approaches to one coming up with the use of personality tests
    the test for for work versus many preciosas there are scientists expect in the industry

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    three individuals use the so um this test is one that
    representative of the tester typically used in industry nice tested Texas
    takes the most of the negative qualities that people possess in doesn’t the system
    this is what you might think of his people strength and emphasize is the strength you may have
    mn dot can be used for a positive way for people to like those
    city was doing it in a workplace which is nicer and it sounds like you know if especially
    specialty going to be showing results posting post post a posting some of them on

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    on your office store probably talking about the perceived negative traits
    is not where you want to go to know I suspect not I wonder 2010
    the the posting of something like a color or label with the cheese the same Possible naked
    will make a consequence if you did not like somebody’s an orange for example I’m not kellita some problems
    specs on a very curious to know how that would affect the people of long run I have no no idea of NYS
    Benny’s study of everything done to do that but I feel so hurt a very coming in this industry for people
    people that used to like the color Tustin BTI for people for example of coming to a meeting and end

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    and confess their personality type of the beginning in order to help communication or two
    do I get a fight with a heart of people get to get people to quick social starting point Vicente
    how to protect ya and NW there then becomes how much information you’re actually communicating
    getting out accurate is and how much that should be relied on and I think the danger in in terms of
    of typing this way is that you can Oversoul information of being given
    okay well I’m wondering just going back how long have
    have a psychologist been working with Ceasar structured personality

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    analogy test as compared to just saw the 11 questioning that somebody might have
    having a session with a psychologist back to the beginning of the 20th century so
    start of something before World War 2 inspired apart by the
    the products of World War 1 was psychologist reply to try to select the soldiers
    Alexa Vega perform better in a field and from that time on you had a along
    long and energetic history of trying to figure out how to assess psychological qualities weather
    weather baby psychopathology something like location to restore normal personality when is a swimming

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    when is the State start moving in the places we’ll movie the places were saying psychologist may not be handy
    Andy I like the workplace or something else that’s been going on for
    long time so I go back to the 1960’s even really
    NBT I was first created alien BTIS Myers
    myers-briggs Type Indicator which is the most widely used in industry okay and I was telling
    and I was I was the telling print before the programming on the ride the tide
    light in my workplace back in the 90’s I took the Myers Briggs test I don’t remember

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    how I scored a little late but up but it but it was certainly was it was
    it was interesting in revealing it somewhere to time how we feeling
    do you think a Myers Briggs test score is about a person what
    Lumi for sale sympathetic to bed something like a four categories
    system is hard to remember the Menace probably watch do something simple Myers Briggs
    4 categories and so got it I thought about the actual remembering here
    hear your qualities and having something very simple strawberry good um and then turns off

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    terms of the question of what something like the myers-briggs would get you
    I know that it’s going to get you some of your personality traits it’s going to provide
    provide some feedback in terms of where you stand
    the scientific issue for release from my perspective in from the field perspective is
    not the questions per se Marina content a mans b*** the tendency to them
    put people into categories which is refined is pilot
    pilot problematic because people as City Center complex they dont they dont actually I’m fit

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    categories BTI oversold idea that people are in types and up
    that these types don’t change and that’s a problem for Minnesota perspective
    because most people on a continuum and the most of the most people in the middle of the continuum
    that’s right way to put the dividing line for an extrovert and introvert or an orange or blue
    and that’s a problem from a scientific perspective in for my information
    mission perspective because you might make a decision based on being of extrovert
    can you just barely left work and more next word in some situations

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    Asians in others the inevitable you very well I c** on strangers as compared with people
    youpor closely with stars things like that yes and no in the sense that
    fat people very Network respect but most of the personality inventories actually have that is part of the car
    how to contact a man so somebody is would be considered high in a conversion if they were comfortable
    Apple meeting with strangers and having a conversation with them if you are uncomfortable doing up in the tester
    designer touch without tune for you more the middle of the Ranger law okay talking about
    what personality testing and if you have any questions for a love for up for breakfast

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    Roberts are if you have any experiences with personality test yourself you’d like to see
    like to share give us a call at 1 800 22 29455
    2802 22 wyll my email is Will dash
    talk at Illinois a.edu when you cannot Richardson Twitter
    where are Facebook at focus 580 and
    you know this goes back to a to a larger question personality tests measure person
    personality and then have to figure out exactly what personality is or what

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    what personality is for the purposes of what your testing for um
    give me that serve sage in odd which means like yes it’s a big field
    what is a big clit big things in terms of what he was talking about
    the color test in test like that you talking specifically about personality traits which are ARW
    are one component of personality why was the way we think about it we also think more bra
    more Broadway in terms of individual differences and when you think more broadly you have to include
    things like somebody’s abilities send somebody xentris for tampons affect your interested in going to end

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    feels like radio is separate from weather your country or not
    Adrian and useful but both of us will to South because they can give you a lot of information
    until the personality test is used in industry almost solely focused on personality
    naughty traits and the limits of the begin with and then you know even if it’s safe you want to go to
    go to in to a field I guess there is there going to be a variety of different jobs in that field at one
    might be subject to a personality type is well um
    what a candy store can personality testing weather Institute of tech

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    testing our say the old the ones that say psychologists use with patients
    can you give us full knowledge of everything about the personality or is that just not pop
    possible what is one thing that I try to remind me every body who uses
    uses personality test Lisa’s the weather structured is that they’re not
    not really what were interested in for interested in somebody’s personality like to argue that if I want to
    understand your personality I’m going to put on a camera on your shoulder
    horror put a team of people together to follow you which is frightening

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    reality TV show exactly volley for 2 years in an ounce
    tears but hope to see you in critical situation so if I want to know what your urine
    you’re anxious individual Roddick I’m going to want to see you in situations where you feel uncertain
    are you feel stressed if you don’t have the experience is over that those tears I died I wouldnt want to make it have to be
    Houston to that type of dimension but maybe Outasight I don’t need to know that much are just don’t have to you
    2 years that’s why we use self report personality inventories is because for the most part we don’t have to
    how 2 years at but but you have to keep in mind that these are facsimiles RR

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    is RR RR stand ins for what were really interested in Denver Facebook
    bursitis in elbow for the individual use the main industry are Ardsley public
    which Downton Abbey character you are the disses just one way to get out and it says its off
    approximation the surprise ending of course is how well the proclamation works
    what is not the Platonic ideal for searching for a question line 4
    94 St Charles from champagne good morning urine focus
    thank you I’m about 40 years ago and I

    00:22:05

    psychology personality psychology course search Siri off
    personality Corso we studied the various
    individual to raise your mouth lyrics and tall and
    I wonder if you today cause I don’t hear you talking about
    about any does Barry Siri say is that still considered important
    does PLL theories think im replaced by
    other ways of looking of personality Prince

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    Prince what happened to all those personality theories of the died
    fortunately their ideas died with a times for the most part the clock
    the classic series the of fried Young Adler MassWildlife
    are not widely used within the field personality psychology give up on the
    upon the the big bran cereal in part because of series like fries are some
    are sometimes untestable in and part because many the ideas were wrong
    why doesn’t stop somebody’s ideas friends for being very influential so Maslow theory for samples

    00:23:15

    Apple store in industry despite the fact that most psychologists and specially personality
    personality psychologist don’t necessarily believe there’s any evidence to support his hierarchy of needs
    needs are some facts remember that from college friends f***
    but I’m wondering are there any new series 2 of come along are you know is
    is there any Siri isn’t there any 3 I’m outta the most people now
    how are studying mid series in terms of the the purchaser taking my mid theory mean
    not Grand so if you want to stand with somebody develops RR weather personalities

    00:23:50

    what is consistent with changeable you go to a developmental theory that describes the the mechanism to process
    processes that are available with we have found the utility of things like
    is like after series are are young stairs to be I’m really not good
    I’m at this point and so then BTI for example is based on Young’s dairy which makes the argument that people flip
    flip flop between personality types over the life course we don’t see the oven for that
    so we divorce Ultimo title ideas because they haven’t been useful in terms of understanding
    is there still a hope of finding a grand theory of personality York

    00:24:25

    Dr people just thinking that is not really useful are even more even desirable
    the Arizona hope some of my friends are there other alternatives that we needed
    we need to consider how old is attachment theory is one that soften soul is another option
    option evolutionary thinking is now actually I’m getting some track evolutionary thinking is
    so the distance in terms of how the human species is created to revolution
    evolution and how it would guide who are the creation of individual differences in why they would exist
    I’m so why would we have a domain search of consciousness in humans

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    what purpose would serve how would it still take something like survival and reproduction evolutionary
    people are starting to think there providing grander theories that most people during the last
    last 20 to 30 or something so stay tuned sounds like me answer this point
    Charles I want to thank you very much for coming in today apartments anda
    let’s go ahead and take a short break right now I’ll be back with more about the science of personnel
    personality testing Hiiraan focus on wyll
    you listening to an encore broadcast of a previous focus program im Jim meadows

    00:25:35

    what’s in my gas today is a French Roberts is a professor of psychology at the University of Illinois
    Illinois what talking about personality testing early we heard from Cindy Harris who are you
    do I use is some of the real world personality test does shiza NH
    NHR manager at the International Society of Arboriculture here in Champaign
    describe how she used a 1 personality cast test be a true colors
    colors test I have a caller who was wondering if this is something that tells me you don’t have a spa
    specific answer for what personality tests ups uses for the

    00:26:10

    the drivers but I would they be was wondering if there’s a larger sense of do you know how to
    how to company like UPS would use personality testing you know either particular job
    jobs were you looking for particular things ain and in some cases Industries of gun co2
    Great Lakes to try to figure out of more efficient and valid way of selecting individuals
    describing how she use the colors test of carbon 12
    to the interview process systematic interview to select people I’m one of our car
    how far from complaints are grapes on the other end of the spectrum is that many organizations

    00:26:45

    Asians don’t use a good valid way off of assessing the qualities that they want
    they want in their employees personality testing is one possible way of doing that many of the trees do it
    do it into their benefit in summer specs on the back in the late 90’s I was where
    does wherefore companies for target in other big retail operations using personality tests to
    decrease employee theft how much was actually a much bigger problem for the men’s French people
    people coming into stealing things in their capable of reducing the number of employees a higher that would
    wood and up taking off of stocks of clothing for example NFL Pomona bottom line

    00:27:20

    wine and that was done through what you think about that the typical approach in Indus
    Industrial Psychology where you go when you do a job analysis figure out what’s required on the job and then what
    what kind of qualities rap beats with predict whether somebody be a good employee
    what type of approach to personality test of any sort typically what is comprehensive that would measure with
    what we think of the Big Five would get you information that would be valuable let me go
    let me let me I catch up on that the big 5 of personality
    throw it in the one major finding within the field personality traits of the last 30 years

    00:27:55

    30 years that we have a working tax on a me off of domains service like a working theory
    personality of some sort of theory would be giving it to much credit
    working model find pizza blindly empirical
    miracle of finding weed Factor analyze the adjectives in the dictionary
    most of the major languages across the globe and arrived at the fact that there so there are 5 made
    major domains are still having quibbles an argument over whether its 5 or 6 or 7
    we do feel pretty confident after 5 in another extraversion horribilis conscientiousness

    00:28:30

    emotional stability and openness to experience and then you might go on a sliding scale
    kaylani to those how much or how little you and for the most part any personal
    personality test that you take will cover some of those domains usually impar
    impart band that did you can’t escape the remains of summer specs
    any question you ask somebody a princess to figure out what character they aren does Nabi
    beyond our star wars will never be somewhere in the domain of a big 5 the color test
    testing BTI the disc test of the Enneagram old is Jesse find online

    00:29:05

    why the old tap the same domain the possible not organized the same way but they actually gay
    actually give you set the the same information just repackage suspect I’m wondering
    when we talk about all those different types of tests I think a lot of them I used mostly
    mostly like in job interviews with what other categories will you find personality test
    testing being used in I was thinking French did someone someone trying to figure out
    what’s the weather going to go into what college you know what to major in in college does personality test
    the test to get used there what does the good go to a different domain

    00:29:40

    personality so we will you try to focus on what we call vocational interest instead of personality
    Detroit location Winchester different race because they reflect kind of what you desire
    what you want to spend your time doing and that’s a different than what you typically do so pretty
    personality traits 10 to a factor in the things that you do
    automatically and not you don’t really think about um interest inventories on the other hand
    can have to do with what you would like to do so are you interested in tinkering with mechanical objects would you like to work with
    work with people not a different bank is it still a measure personality are not um I would

    00:30:15

    argue that the measure personality because I like to keep the field broad inclusive
    Lucifer of most of the major domains of individual differences exist important for
    for not only Society for the way people function what you want to do is incredibly important thing
    thinking probably a much better thing for determining whether you should be in a certain major or with you should
    are you should be in a certain job or not numb your personality traits made in effect with your successful
    will there about if you’re not interested in working with cars are not interested in being engineer
    engineer might not really matter what your country or not or extrovert

    00:30:50

    andar en are there hole range of brands of tests for for for
    44 thats a fuse is well with your angel them and they been
    they been in existence possibly of long for longer than personality trait measures 90 if you talk to vocational
    psychologist educational psychologist Jim Brown’s next one here and stuff
    experts typically in the domain and for some reason I get clean from our field long time ago but really
    what really does belong together can another one another a type of testing that occurred mean
    dating services weather dating websites are other social dating services were there

    00:31:25

    there’s a personality tests in and maybe a test what’s the person you’re looking for
    how does tests work those times I actually do focus
    almost exclusively on personality traits which is someone fortunate because there’s no
    there’s not a lot of evidence of the name of the scientific literature that we match up on
    map on personality traits with our spouses how do we measure um well I think they go to college
    propinquity market forces are pink with his big word to me what does that mean midgets having the next
    the next to somebody is attracted to you you find people in your school

    00:32:00

    find people in your workplace 35 people community in your church and they just happen to be there
    what happened to the qualities that you want and what we do know the personality traits
    important in the qualities of people want everybody wants somebody who’s smart funny
    nice and responsible for most universal that’s the forsworn funny 9
    nice responsible does the top 10 that you can make a nice long list of the ordered a quite
    white road quite reliably about everybody wants a certain type of person in there and they’re made
    I’m very little evidence that with you match up or not has

    00:32:35

    really any incremental benefit to you so if you happen to be disagree
    is it good to have to disable together verse is a nice person and not not a nice person
    we don’t have a lot of evidence that the Big Bang ok these are the tests that are
    what are administered by 9 psychologists I guess a relatively quickly are there any other field
    Fields where of where there’s enough of the man for personality test
    there’s a hole range of marketers trying to bring personality test in tooth
    listen to business are industrial don’t see that happening

    00:33:10

    how often can but I may be in terms of n in psychological counseling
    self esteem personality testing there used to be a very popular thing to do within the clinical death
    domain is probably going to c** more important as time goes on because the new
    Diagnostic and Statistical Manual for clinical psychologist just came out of the DSM vs m5
    part of that they have a dimensional system very similar to the big 5 examples
    testo that’s being used and it might be there in the future these types of approaches
    is World War Z running songs of the the clinical field camera

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    Radisson to do what we think of as as forecasting for somebody psychology used to be
    used to be the case that you’re going to bring a person and give them tests like that and that end in PI to Minnesota
    Multi personality inventory which is dedicated to something psychopathology exclusively
    who supplies and then using a towel or weather somebody’s gonna be a successful person or not
    not or to diagnose them that fell out of favor for a long time to come back
    come back but the issues themselves are very problem in the minds of the clinical psychologist when you know that moves us right
    right into a question found in from Sarah who wants to know what is personality

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    how the disorder and are these personality tests used to diagnose
    the test that we started talking about like the the disc test
    the color test or not intended to psychopathology
    personality disorders of a subcategory of a clinical worlds think of it
    psychopathology units is assumed to be like a personality trait but it’s going to be something
    something that’s pathological narcissism for example what is an example of a personality
    narcissistic personality disorder borderline personality disorder test at that

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    that actually tap these try to measure would a test like a test for the gender for the workplace even
    even see no service orders only indirectly so we do know for example that person out
    the normal personality traits of a quotation surround that are strongly related
    related to what clinician study of neurotic system which is the domain of a friend
    feeling depressed and anxious and an uncertain is strongly related to all of the personality
    words that we say Lowcountry unload a realist are some of the
    are some of the best predictors what we think of is externalizing disorder so antisocial personality disorder

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    disorder and psychopathology for example I’m so there’s a lot of overlap more than
    I suspect people might be comfortable with you would you be able to diagnose stop by with a color to snow
    are you going to get some of that information yeah little bit but not the end
    in my mind Worth diagnosing somebody so it would be a more involved
    personality test maybe of the times you said it just did you just said so
    set a falling out of favor that you might use to try to find a tranny
    how to diagnose a personality disorder or are you saying that now psychologist

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    just go with no one on one conversation with a patient treatment
    lottery ticket stub more of you bring people in use s were there at a menu design
    directions to help him out um so you don’t usually use personality testing
    asian girlfriend utility that wouldn’t be use for could be
    clinicians do continue to use does test but that that’s not quite as popular as
    is there a fear of Ms diagnosis with with with a general te stats
    that’s the same test for every person I think you probably have to ask conditions I think there’s a sense of Utah

    00:36:40

    futility when it comes to the interface with the reimbursement systems right now what what
    what what does the the insurance agent want to see
    remind me to work without as opposed the weather going to find you swallow a test and I’m wondering
    the ring of 44 oz for conditions which psychiatry
    Hyatt wrists would use medications to treat a yeast in Port St schizophrenia
    frania are diagnosis of bipolar disorder is that something that a personality test
    test are you know what would be able to even odd even the

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    what are the details psychological personality tests would be able to defeat look at
    no in the winter the Tuscany crib for
    sites like this or for the industry don’t have that well enough to be able to diagnose somebody
    Dr to be used to construct a boy and a Tesla psychologist use to use and don’t use as much for the
    for the patients with a be looking for an existing Stan and improved on M&P
    M&P iforgot.apple limit create another test to get it things like personality disorders
    borders but those are used by clinicians and the clinical field and they

    00:37:50

    they are just not as widely used to work for the 19 fifties and sixties OK
    interesting cuz I think a lot of people’s images of what a psychologist does
    map in step by Ste models of the movies movies on TV from the 1950s and 60s
    things I don’t know if they change that much over the years um uh
    especially if someone’s watching something sent back that people watching us an episode of Mad Men
    fantasy psychologist there a scene that still using those techniques
    and that may be the model of what they think is going on now possibly

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    thinking about the TV shows of psychologist that might be better Bionic review
    psychologist that look like skinny
    psychologist using of course it’s like I’m just coming many many different forms of energy
    psychologist have many different approaches to the price all them questions
    so you can get people are very concrete Leo rented looking at behaviors and thoughts I think I
    girl talking about her selection system mercy behavioral based interview in writing
    write a clinical approach would be like that 2 called talking to be able to pee your sister have psychoanalytic

    00:39:00

    people which is more like that the things you see Mad Men
    psychology related your mother and father when you’re young so they still coming over
    Fridays by their tongues to be watching waiting on those the reason and how they are playing today
    what you know I’m wondering um women going bad
    going back to the personality tests and jests some of those basic test if you’re talking
    talking about for the workplace are for dating service career counseling up how to
    how are the questions designed are they are the DeSoto questions where a person is

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    is consciously describing something about themselves is a understand themselves are they trying
    trying to find a way in which people may be more something more reef revealing of themselves
    self that really knowing the other really nice question
    would argue that most personality test not develop without much for thought
    typically we want to get at certain domains and dimensions and then the person who is offering the test will have
    have a variety of approach is some of them are very simplistic so I buy wood categorize the
    question approaches in the three three domains when is straightforward

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    somebody that you asked them are you an expert are you talking about you but there’s an does te
    does types of questions to be the most valid then there’s the subtle approach what use to be
    used to be a tradition with personality assessment that was the drive from just like in a PI
    why were you ask someone to have interesting inseminated questions like I prefer showers
    hours to bad and then you look at the answers to see what people would say in MN figure out with
    what are correlated with anything you’re interested in use that that’s a very fit a fun way
    fun way to do things because it tends to make the test mysterious for individuals taking it in the ass

    00:40:45

    shower sure and Rancho what movie review let you have something
    Holiday what does the two dominant ways of doing things with some questions like that
    cat to not be as useful as well then is ingenious questions
    so I think in particular some of my friends working at the domain of attachment for simple
    example like to assess the dimension of avoidance with somebody likes to avoid relationships
    not very good asking when person are you in person
    yes I don’t answer the question what yo straightforward questions are indirect where they say

    00:41:20

    Sao people shouldn’t be trusted right and then one person say of course
    course you should trust people think something about themselves for saying something
    something about people that are actually meeting in some respects and directly to
    to the quality of a psychologist restaurant assess to what degree do people try to cheat
    how to cheat on personality test in present themselves is someone that they think the test
    the tester wanted to see how are you a controversial stance on
    dance on that I’m almost always thunderstruck by how honest people

    00:41:55

    people are people want to tell you who they are even in what we think of as high stakes
    stakes testing situations applying for a job and I’m trying to get into any organization
    what that uses some type of pre screening test it is really surprised me how
    how honest people are good when you look at the stuff the scores are elevated
    I’m so there is some books a fledgling of the of the dimensions
    what we see are the answers to the questions but it is very uncommon to find people true
    truly faking Amanda wave saying this is who I should be based on

    00:42:30

    dawn what this person wants it what is really hard so if you have to go to an interview
    dancer 150 questions and fake it takes a lot of c*** ever to do
    how to do some people default to install a specially is what we call f******
    I’m so you might put your best foot forward so to speak
    this thing that you know you are completely and utterly disorganized moderately disorganized
    and not a thing as much more common we are talking about personality testing with friends
    Fred Roberts professor of psychology of the University of Illinois email address will dash

    00:43:05

    dash talkin Illinois TTU let’s go to a caller on line
    94 and that’s Davidson Terre Haute good morning urine focus
    good morning how to call about the speaker setup opinion
    of a please understand me that you’re sick Bates
    to be a simplified Myers Briggs test if it’s no problem
    experience with benefits rich workshop on it
    terms of the differences of people in heaven simply revelation about the book

    00:43:40

    and I wonder what its current weight is the profession
    please understand me character and temperament types by David Jersey in Maryland Bates
    Wikipedia listing what is what do you think the book print
    ally have a book so I can’t I can’t come in a book Amanda I’ll I’ll use that
    used as an indicator of what we think about it the scientific field most practicing
    missing psychologist who are doing science don’t use the NBT I already buried
    very intimate Bandon or do they endorse the approach that typically done

    00:44:15

    under qualified up a little bit when it comes to the domains that are satisfied
    Best Buy the NBT on the color test we would not disputed does existing people in NFL test can get
    can get up those dimensions reasonably well where we
    you start getting into trouble with the sinuses how does tester used
    used especially that the act of categorizing people into types and diet
    that’s where we really part ways because we know that that’s not the way you miss work
    thinking in in a utility perspective like a wastin Dr Seuss story about it first

    00:44:50

    it useful to know in what direction you’re going the the real question
    from my perspective comes to how are you going to use that information again if you suddenly get cat
    how to write an extrovert you’re just a little bit over the midpoint of extraversion and you make it
    make a consequence of decision for your life based on the information that to me is a problem
    that’s the way to tie should not be used and then there’s a tendency in an industry
    mystery to tell extraordinarily compelling stories about how
    the dimensions relate to a lot of different outcomes and I don’t see a lot of empirical evidence for the cleansing

    00:45:25

    Armada fair a lot of pretty nu uh easy
    repackaging what you said next for therefore you’re going to like to be with people that’s what you told
    told personal inventory but a lot of times they tend to extrapolate pretty
    pretty widely assuming that for temple understanding who you are going to make you happier in the workplace are better worker
    worker more motivated and I don’t see any of the support
    ok yes much David thank you very much for college
    calling and I we have another collar off from Urbana I think you may have a good morning

    00:46:00

    focus? Myers Briggs have a quick one thing I learned
    um in lean workout after weed Myers Briggs Type S sound
    what are the ways spot that extrovert
    where is better people then more interesting for people and
    what was very useful about the after sex
    ascension was that talk about extroverts being people who recharged with other people
    people got their energy back and introverts prefer to be

    00:46:35

    how to recharge by themselves with a much more helpful way to think about
    thinkin bout those two personality aspects fact that you can change
    mixtures and pure gas have pointed out
    thanks thank you and that is something something its lesson
    what’s the value judgement in that case on extroverts and introverts um
    more than 10 just more for the scripture and is an accurate description of
    talking about those basic types of doctors

    00:47:10

    Corsican being a construction the day that comes up is weather
    weather not is the value of a person but Weatherford for dental society Value City
    write think its it’s undeniable the cause of the Western in a special American society values
    extroverts over introverts and the probably very little basis for that turns off
    terms of the Imperial courts write a deductive you find im the
    empirical database related to extraversion extroverts for example of an suffer more car
    car accidents because their respective distracted I’m so there’s negative consequences to be an extrovert girl

    00:47:45

    are there also a positive consequences for cymbalta to be a happier than other people
    and that’s been one of those reliable finding that we get fat as a scientist I see that type of finance
    anime sympathetic to the argument that you want to have equal value to the different dimensions but its very hard knock
    NACA seaside saying well I like a rich Moore I’m in there for valium and
    by the way this finding a text to be happier than a bird im it and you may not like
    like that I may not like that but its empirical fact I have to Russell it bad if you look across
    personality is never be the case that you find positive and negative attributes are qualities

    00:48:20

    associated with high low and feet one but some of them have a lot more power
    more positive things associated with high end automotive there not a lot of really good
    good things that happen to you if your impulses an irresponsible and disorganized
    Camelot negative things happen to the flip side of your very conscientious you turn to live longer
    longer have better physical health a better positive social relationships in do better work
    work directions to defend step back and say well
    we have to exercise the positive qualities about that motivational thing comes out of hell

    00:48:55

    MBT eyes typically used which is as a tool to validate and make employees
    what you feel better and not respecting BTI the color test of my car broke down because they
    does that taken out all the negative qualities that we typically assessing the scientific wrong person
    personality and that raises the question is that useful in the work
    the workplace Isaias use for the test or is that deceptive and perhaps
    perhaps counterproductive far is a little about depending
    what you sow is it for the real goal of industries to make employees feel good by getting into

    00:49:30

    ti like that works perfectly how about making the more productive by putting them in
    jobs are suited for a completely different question and end in there in that situation you may not fine
    find information on something like that useful to you and thinking terms of development
    developmental angle you what you want to do to maximize your human capital on your employer
    workforce sometimes no situations you may want to know what the negative quotes
    qualities are so that you can actually help people to work on them where to create a work place that
    is that doesn’t punish them for what’s a negative qualities that that’s not a problem

    00:50:05

    which is better time one question that occurs to be spread your taking a personality test
    I have actually have you mean baby try the different brands of them
    I dye it looked over some of the ones that are we talking about today and and there a lot of fun
    did they did you come out the same way in all of them umm lets see no
    no no but because that they try to create systems are in copper bowls of respect
    and some cases of course on the green I’m on the on the color test
    that’s not my surprising better than the other test if you have a different dimension

    00:50:40

    translate what are useful information came out of this test um
    the think some of my friends and family might argue that I could use that information
    omentum ibenefitcenter there’s a suspected I find anything surprising know
    I did not okay what we’ve been talking about personality testing in about personality
    with Professor Brett Roberts Easley social personality organizations in the social personality
    personality organizational division of the Department of Psychology at the University of Illinois
    Illinois thanks for joining us on focus more pleasure than me Jim meadows

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