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Encore: The Lost Region

According to historian and author Jon Lauck, in comparison to the South, the far West and New England, the history of the American Midwest has been far overlooked in its importance. This hour on Focus, he talks with host Jim Meadows.

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The American Midwest played a crucial role in the development of the US as a whole, helped spark a revolution of American manufacturing by producing food for urban centers and played a critical role in the Union victory of the Civil War. If you ask most historians about the Midwest, however, you might find yourself explaining all that.

This hour on Focus, we'll listen back to a conversation Jim Meadows had with Jon Lauck, author of the new book “The Lost Region: Toward a Revival of Midwestern History,” about the forgotten moments when the Midwest played a crucial part in US history. We’ll also hear about the vital role state and local historical societies have played in documenting history in the region.

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    some parts of our country stand out in
    terms of the attention they get in American history New England invokes the
    colonial era as well as many of our nations founding fathers. The South
    flares up Civil War the far west reminds us of the
    settlement of the American frontier the last conflicts between settlers and Native Americans

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    what about the Midwest will Midwestern historian jobs
    things to give in the Midwest short shrift
    history Nexus case in his book
    the most recent to make it today

    program continues after the news good morning
    good morning I’m Jim meadows in your listening to an encore broadcast of a previous focus program

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    program for not taking calls this hour but will be back live tomorrow at 10
    10 a.m. On wyll AM 580 today were talking about
    talking about the history of the Midwest and how historians have treated by Midwest
    Midwest or focus in here on the Prairie Midwest Eye not for instance the Great Lakes region
    my guess John Lauck describes the region stretching from Ohio Indiana
    Anna in Illinois on the eastern Nebraska Kansas in the Dakotas
    the Western some people the states are all in flyover country not working

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    what’s bothering about John Lauck says for many years historians secreted the Midwest much
    much the same way not that important to the story of America
    Johnson’s the Midwest has an important stories to tell in the historians
    should be examining it remix the case for Midwestern history in his book The Lost Region
    most recent toward a revival of Midwestern history is published by the universe
    University of Iowa Press Jon Lovitz on the phone with us from South Dakota John welcome to f***
    thanks Jim glad to be here I hope so I don’t know how

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    well the car this morning
    when I start it 23
    Apartments in yes or no prior to
    wind chill factor that it’s pretty chilly I saw in North Dakota
    62 and 1000 so we’re doing pretty well compared to that
    well we will try to take her thoughts of the cold and then look at Midwestern history
    NFS far is is far is everybody listening today maybe you’re a student

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    even historian yourself what are your thoughts about the history of
    our part of the country and how was presented and maybe what we still don’t know you can
    you can give us your thoughts email us at wilderness talking Illinois .edu
    welcome your questions on Facebook and Twitter at focus
    focus 580 and you know I never thought
    Country Inn affect competing for attention from historians
    different parts of the country have their own story

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    mythologies connected to them what’s the story of the American Midwest
    well it’s because they’re
    of competition and I think that’s been good it’s been
    Ben a healthy competition in the past unfortunately it’s kind of
    dwindle down to essentially nothing in terms of the mid
    the Midwest competing for center stage of a historian
    the tension in recent years but you know that if course New England

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    the American South first and especially New England and New York
    New York what swear so much of academic research was based
    alot of History focused on that region in the late 19th century
    Centralia man from Wisconsin from portage Wisconsin Frederick Jackson
    Jackson Turner said you know there’s a lot of a lot of History out here in our part of the country
    the country to why don’t we write about that its just
    just as important as the history and other regions and sell baseball hits leader

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    leadership high school of historians was organized and they begin to focus
    gifts on the Midwest in a very serious fashion on a bill to pay bill
    scholarly organization and journals
    Pulitzer Prize is it was a center of intellectual
    selectivity for a long time then in Urbana
    University of Illinois that was a man by the name of Clarence Alvord thank you for bringing that name up
    I was going to buy was going to ask about them

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    great well I just since we were talking and talking to an expert about Illinois
    why is dimension all of his tremendous
    this work for 20 or 30 years at the University of Illinois
    part of the 20th century where he bill
    built a very impressive a body of
    historical research and I brought in a lot of others
    and they turned out a lot of important books about the region in Alberta

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    self important books about how the Midwest figured in Meijer
    world events such as the American
    Revolution and the French and Indian War etcetera mean it was very impressive
    endeavor and there’s nothing like it today no one does this
    now I want to get back to some of the specific you said about the Midwestern impact on American history
    what else you said your ear saying that’s the Midwest
    doesn’t get to the center of attention from historians today and I gather

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    gather from what you wrote something changed around the mid century after World War II
    it that after World War II the old
    school of Midwestern history just fell apart the key
    leaders of the group retired they moved on
    Frederick Jackson Turner have died because stripper fashion became interested
    other topics of course the Cold War had a major
    major influence on focusing United States outward

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    Blaine to attach to the Midwest for not being in c**
    incomplete sync with the efforts of the efforts of the Cold War
    the isolationist region of the United
    United States and sell there was a bit of a hangover from
    from certain people who thought the Midwest
    world leadership whats up her because of back
    historical profession and of course it became more diverse and better in a lot of ways

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    play the one of the things that happened was the Midwest complete
    completely dropped out of the conversation no longer was considered a
    final region in a place where im portant
    research took place another thing that happened was about 1960
    Westerners became so much frustrated with lack of attention
    region meeting trans Missouri West or the egg
    the area of the United States be on the Missouri River and so they form their own sky

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    so some Midwesterners
    there and their old organization focus on the Midwest
    begin the weather in a finally completely dropped
    any offices on the Midwest in the 1960s well
    end in tion in terms of more recent years
    historians have schools of history been organized in terms of region or have they been Oregon
    organized by a bike in other way there still

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    important regional dimensions to American history
    of course the history of the American South still get some
    tremendous amount of attention and part of that is because everybody knows exactly what the
    what the south is in Pittsfield Confederacy behold states of the
    the Confederacy everybody knows what the boundaries of the South R
    and there’s a greater degree of historical and regional consciousness
    in the south for good or bad

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    helps to justify Moore historical research let me give you a
    statistic Jim that I think reveals
    how much further had the south is from of the Midwest
    terms of its historical research at the University of Georgia
    just to take one example there are 10 people who do research
    in the history of the American South Salt n southern historia
    at the University of Minnesota contrast which I think it’s bigger school

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    there are exactly is zero is story ends
    who are experts in the history of Minnesota where the Midwest
    it’s just not done in the Midwest like it is another region
    and so as a result there are no young
    young professors there are no young graduate students are people writing dissertation
    books there are no scholarly
    organizations that faster research on the region and soul

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    so therefore our consciousness of the region suffered as a result
    well first of all let me remind
    talking about history and Midwestern history and its side Nicolette
    recent years with John Locke in South Dakota along with Illinois
    Illinois is part of the Midwest is the author of the Lost region 20
    Midwestern history published by the University of Iowa press
    you have a question or comment on Midwest history college did 1 800 222

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    29455 are you can email your question to talk in Illinois
    phone number 1 800 222
    the sides of the male you can send them to Wauseon Twitter or Facebook and focus
    580 John I was wanting to get back in the sum of the areas
    Midwestern history looked at
    really thought of one of that was the Midwest impact
    leading up to the Revolutionary War which is not the first

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    the first thing that comes about because of course the 13 colonies that form the US
    did not extend into the Midwest the Midwest then was divided between us
    France and England what was going on Alta there in colonial times
    affected the development of a nation yes this is one of those
    things that gets overlooked and I think it can be attributed to
    do a certain New England orientation to American history
    words with people think about the spark that led to the American Revolution

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    separation of the American colonies from Britain Bellefontaine
    think about the conflicts in Boston and you know Massachusetts merchant
    merchants reacting to wifey mean when was doing this
    ultimately setting in motion the train of events that led to the revolution
    as several Midwesterners pointed out including
    Clarence Alvord at the University of Illinois way back in the 19
    teens in 2013 the conflict

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    originally stems from what was Ben called the backcountry
    the colonial backcountry which we know it today as the Midwest because after the
    after the French and Indian War the British took control of this Basque region
    call the Midwest and they decided that they work
    how to manage this area with something at the heavy hand
    and they sent in a lot of troops and anchor delotta respect expensive because
    because of this is a result they started to turn the screws

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    rules on the colonists try to squeeze more money out of them
    deal with all of these conflicts in the colonial backcountry and Co
    salver pointed out and have no respect way back
    back in the day the original spark of friction lab
    lead to the revolution started
    in the Midwest what we would think of as the Midwest
    left today turned into an American tail the 19th century

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    essentially the same region and so if we are conscious of the Midwest
    Midwest and its history we understand events like the American Revolution
    much much better but with no one pricing for a greater degree
    historical awareness of the Midwest role in American history all of that
    gets left on the cutting room floor and porch in Italy I guess
    this soda foot works like the section of a James Fenimore Cooper
    The Last of the Mohicans 20 years ago

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    as as being part of the Midwestern missiles set the time on though I don’t think
    I don’t think that movie came out that its parked at a big resurgence
    no but I mean II love the movie of course because its set
    in that area in this old French
    Indian War era and area that is is absolutely
    fascinating this is what led to the creation of the Midwest that led to the
    dissolution of the French Empire in the New World

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    world Atlanta to get all the British short term British occupation
    Westin ultimately to the
    the American seizure of the Midwest in the opening days of the
    American Revolution when they sent George Rogers Clark outta place
    places like Illinois and Indiana to seize the British outpost there
    there and make this claim for the United States until Wednesday
    negotiated the peace treaty at the end of the American Revolution they had strong clean

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    claims to bring this territory into the new United States
    but yes this the whole story of Cooper
    leather stocking tail hawk eye of course that’s where
    that’s where the term Iowa Hawkeyes comes from the people in
    early Iowa James Fenimore Cooper and they like you
    from these books and so that’s why we now have the Iowa Hawkeyes football team
    what you may not like in Urbana

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    another another piece of fiction which I guess that’s my Midwest Road soda
    The Little House on the Prairie books of Laura’s Lauren
    Laura Ingalls Wilder in the Midwest yes yes
    they were she grew up Laura I’m talking about
    primarily in western Minnesota and eastern South Dakota
    and then ultimately she move down to Missouri northern Missouri where she
    the writing help for daughter has been on a bus

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    Hertz stories were about the early days in places like
    Lake Minnesota settlers first moved and they first setup
    setup Town the first till the Prairie they first began
    rudimentary process of building Institution
    Duchin Zen and assembling social life and building churches in school
    school so this is this is a very important part of Midwestern history and probably
    probably as your and you’re listener points out probably

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    the one that’s best 9022 a popular
    popular Audi I mean I would be interested in your opinion on this gem
    little bit if your 40 and above your problem
    probably fairly aware of the show
    Michelle but I think it’s beginning to fade quite a bit earlier
    generation so we’re going to have even left consciousness of this region I fear
    yeah that’s something I wonder about that because I don’t know if I was a boy

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    talk to people younger than my generation has a baby boomer one of my grade school
    school teachers red from Laura Ingalls Wilder books to est
    TV show came about which was tremendously popular but I think that was
    was it was a use for jumping off point and I don’t know what the TV show
    show did but I get the impression that there was the the books
    books did a pretty good job of giving some idea of daily life
    life at least from a child support if you sign out from the from the light from the 19th century

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    I can’t they did a good job and I am a great
    advocate of the books and I read them to my children
    but I do think that it’s collective impact is feeding someone
    somewhat because there are just a few are people who are familiar with them
    I think the show gave a little bit of added boost
    do the reading of the books and I think you know people in the last 15 years
    is there cell are so inundated with media messages

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    Obama Barnard with iPhones and Twitter etc
    did just causes us to lose touch with those
    deeper regional connections even more maybe I’m a bit too pessimistic about
    about that but I think we’re going to have to work a little bit harder to maintain
    connections to our shared regional past if you want to continue them
    we have a cooler online for Steven Hoopeston good morning Iran focus
    good morning thanks for taking my call

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    falling up with you guys just talking about I couldn’t agree with you

    im 13 and up what up what are not being taught
    finish school about to you about the area and then also to agree with your
    hello to compete with now it is so you know with the Internet
    top of that they want to find something they can very easily find it
    instantaneously I guess it doesn’t hold much of an interesting year up Midwest

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    call the great flyover regions
    which perhaps is unfortunate f*** my quick question is
    John Hubbard
    Palm Harbor
    maybe not with allergies that he
    Randy Indians for a mile and a half in the play that important in settling


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    part of that thank you very much Steve
    come to think of it I grew up in the south suburbs of Chicago myself and I remember
    to the Hobbit trail is are all those concerning the same Hubbard
    well I would just say very generally about
    early Midwestern history that it is almost completely
    erased from historical consciousness in terms of K 12
    teaching and what children learn of courses is going on now

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    what children where will learn and I
    paper goggle Tribune a couple weeks ago
    when they were preparing to launch this civics History Program
    they found that like 50 K 12
    didn’t even know who attacked the United States at Pearl Harbor and that’s what
    so there’s a great day munition
    mission of historical consciousness generally comes

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    region is especially bad and yes Hubbard and
    you mention the Leatherstocking Tales and James Fenimore Cooper at the early explorers
    borders of the area George Rogers Clark in southern Illinois
    all these people are so the boss 2 history
    but I think it’s a little bit more attention and maybe a little pressure
    pressure on are state legislators vocal teachers we can revive interested
    local figures and I help but think it helped children become

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    understand where they are in the world
    the place that surrounds an unfortunate
    sucked into this a digital world which is somewhat
    and I think it hurts them in the long run it’s good to have roots
    roots it’s good to know where you’re from it’s good to have a base
    family is an important part of that it was the New York Times
    story couple weeks ago about what’s the best thing that you can do to

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    ensure for lack of a better word psychic stability
    children and the all these this article went through the research
    research done by many different professors around the country
    the the key thing you can do is just teach your children who they are
    and where they come from and what their family stories are and what the family
    Family what’s the families ups and downs open
    prepares them for life to get a better sense of where they are and where they’re going at home

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    everybody has ups and downs but you can’t do that unless people understand where there from
    what were going to take a short break right now and then we will continue
    continue work talk about Midwestern history
    dismiss it with my guest John Locke this is focus on wyll
    MGM meadows in your listening to an encore broadcast of a previous program

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    my back with focus on wyll AM 580 mg Meadows
    encore edition of focus for not taking life phone calls this hour
    what we welcome your feedback on our website at will.illinois.edu
    focus for talking with John Locke an attorney
    AT&T store in South Dakota Tristan Midwest
    Western history call the lost its published by the University of
    Iowa Press what are the sing you were talking about in yearbook

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    if I add Midwestern history isn’t getting on the right side of attention
    is how many Western Area contributed to the Industrial Development
    talk a little bit about that job yes
    yes in the 19 century there was a bit off
    commercial activity in New England in terms of industrial
    dust realization that building plans
    held in comparison to what can later in the Midwest

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    mini pitbull this is what many people think of the Midwest as this Industrial Court
    core of the region what’s now start off as the Rust Belt
    but for decades of the central
    industrial plant of the United States was basically
    clear and from Central Ohio through to Michigan
    Detroit of course in northern Indiana and Chicago
    an unfortunate that heart of the country has fallen on sometimes

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    tough times in recent decades but there is something about manufacturing
    revival these days by in terms of Midwestern
    Western history this period of rapid economic development
    made the region an industrial power house and it made
    Barry economically strong and supply
    supplied to the plains and answer
    supplied the guns on the shelves that help the world

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    100 thing I would mention to is is the impact of
    West on the Civil War because gifts
    it had simply been a contest between the Old South England
    it’s very likely that the South would have prevailed
    seated and the early experiment
    forming a republican government in the United States would a falling apart
    but luckily for the north at that time they had

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    the where with all of the Midwest to draw include
    including its manufacturing sector but more importantly it’s so
    soldiers and if you don’t through the list of who signed up to fight
    Civil War you will find that the quotas
    vastly oversubscribed in the Midwest
    meaning bad about 55 of the people who could sign up to go
    the gold fight in places like Indiana win in slot and this was buried

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    very true also Illinois and Michigan Wisconsin
    godson and they took the balance they made it possible for the north to win the war
    when the war are you saying that may be on the number of people are you going in the army
    Armed Forces for the Civil War was not a tie ins in New England it wasn’t
    it was not it was not a specially in places in the urban centers in the Northeast in New York City
    York City for example the could not be there
    there a draft quote its infected big riots in New York City

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    city anti draft riots I’m thinking of the movie are Gangs of New York
    switch off of course is fertilized but it touches another little bit yeah exactly
    that’s what I’m talking about this is the same set of circumstances but in
    in the in the Midwest this was not a problem people rush to sign up because
    does there was a great deal of empathy for the cause of the north
    north and preserving the Union during the American republic and sew
    there was not a problem raising Regiment Spartacus on tree of course

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    where you’re located we had
    prominent leaders like Abraham Lincoln who made it possible
    who led the war effort and Ulysses S Grant from Galena Illinois
    and then there were dozen
    Illinois health north to win the war so I think
    I think the role of the Midwest Inn in critical
    episodes of American history Civil War it just gets it just gets forgotten

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    people don’t remember
    call now and this is Bruce in the mint good morning good morning
    interesting topics and Happy New Year
    originally from Iowa and but I grew up all over United States
    when the sky goes back to you that’s what I call was part of your discussion
    wilder and IQ ever been called American history on the East Coast
    coastin this is back in the early 60’s hard is it to teachers

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    ugly because of history teacher that thought
    windmills word for drilling oil wells and
    yeah I tell me about it and it took several pictures from my grandfather
    farming Iowa to convince her otherwise but
    what’s getting lost is the grandparents
    kids are getting more more removed from farms I was lucky enough to spend a couple years with
    look like grandfather feel like move around with my step father and stuffy work

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    IBM from home without running away from home
    home but I stayed on the farm for 2 years including up one room schoolhouse
    what was that is now gone disappeared and its just the generational gap
    more more removed from
    people see you in 20 minutes to disconnect and is you said technologies
    doesn’t really help anything anyway enjoy the show thank you
    continue listening thank you very much and I wonder if I

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    if it actually helps you think about history more
    if your parents and grandparents live in a different situation in you
    you grew up in the city but ur parents and grandparents who who grub on a farm
    that might lead you to think about things more than fusa it all grown up in pharmacy
    all grown up in the suburbs yeah I think his life truth to that Jem I
    I think I think especially as we get older probably when we turn about 50
    50 we really begin to think a little more seriously about what are we

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    are roots are as I parents age they get older we wonder about their
    experiences we wonder what kind of a culture
    have a country that came from that’s a great opportunity for people that take a step back
    soaking a little bit more their history
    hope that if people hear about the book if they have something
    klixen their minds think you know what I need to take my roots
    I bit more seriously I have to stop being swept away

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    what type of culture Elsmere support because of faith
    if you are just glue dent popper
    culture where are you going to take your kids from we’re going to take
    take your kids from Hollywood to New York City cause that’s what most pop culture comes from
    and it’s not the kind of place is its just to say that’s worth
    that’s worth manufactured that’s where it comes from
    there was a time in the Midwest where they were some more focused effort to

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    create regional voices of people who wrote about the region
    poets who were serious about the region that she’ll Lindsay
    the in Illinois Edgar Lee masters in central Illinois
    people that talk about their region therefore connected with other people
    people that were located in the region had their own culture
    think about and enjoy as opposed to
    relying on a culture manufactured somewhere else by other people

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    people who don’t understand where you left I just wanted ads
    jim says were talking about central Illinois
    writing this book end in a little bit of time
    after I finish the writer from central Illinois
    named Edgar Lee masters and I always knew him
    courses in history I would always talk about him as being part
    part of this movement that was once called the rim full from the village

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    who began to turn against their hometown
    criticize the region for being too austere and Puritans
    when it cetera Apple iPhone but I actually look into the historical
    miracle record and red what masters road
    I didn’t rely on what other people told me was significant about him I found
    doubt that he wrote a tremendous Obama about southern Illinois
    very positive and its very impressive body of work including his

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    books on the Sangam on river which is its a wonderful
    are the rivers of America series but no one remembers
    they only remember that one book the Edgar Lee masters
    1915 because some people thought of you detect the Midwest
    River anthology where in the in the end
    of having of people in a small town graveyard
    tell their stories he actually told stories based on some concept of the town

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    the town clit Ray Rice
    but it’s time as a young man in Illinois between St Peter
    Petersburg New Salem and he is love
    Petersburg in Lewiston okay I’m sorry I’m sorry I’m thinking something else but
    but he he he spent a lifetime is young man there there was one of the town
    what wonderful the other one he he thought there was some problems with it
    Spoon River anthology that he was very much

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    mixed bag it was very colorful and it was kinda funny and it was very clever because
    because he was writing these poems in the book in the form of
    tombstone in in inscriptions but anyway
    too many people just take that one book and I think he was critical in the Midwest
    mark this big rebellion among writers in the region
    to attack the region that is really completely wrong is it special
    specially as it relates to Edgar Lee masters if you look at the corpus of his way

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    is work in the years after the Spoon River anthology
    very writing about his home
    how much he cares for it and its unfortunately he’s remember that way
    what is remember that way because no one is writing Midwestern history anymore
    attention to the other things you wrote and
    unless we have a more sophisticated view of history in the region
    we’re not going to hear those other voices well we are talking with John Locke on focus

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    wyll author of the Lost region
    tension to Midwestern history and that’s which port is full so much
    92 County good morning around focus
    hiya hiya Turner
    talking about amazing Midwestern Apopka theatrical
    exactly he’s he’s the guy that gave the Columbian Exposition speech
    show that talked about the frontier was called the frontier thesis

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    if basically helped develop the
    the American myths that beat her empty land for free people
    and it just implicitly accepted
    tablets of of European racial
    racialism for one I mean on the Thea
    the great takeover of this land is a remedy
    and the other is but a time does struck by the fact that

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    Turner as if this was the only thing that he was talking about I think that hoe
    contacts disc is quite important is sleep
    exhibition wasnt really looked around in economics
    but he started circulating it too
    what’s a newspaper writers in it became
    justified that the dominant phenomenon seems to me and
    first hearing it out of service labor is

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    is street is is not talk about much is labor history everywhere but the
    but the end of the article for mint in Chicago
    European left this and that gave us a tower work day which we don’t have anymore
    is something that also get short Riften in and that’s not
    not because of many Midwestern anti Midwestern think it’s just because of lack of
    really authentic labor history so there’s a to justice and Oates I can I get some
    I’m going to go back and try my pipes good luck thank you pump

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    and I’m talking about a couple of areas
    what’s been done about it both in terms of labor history
    Native Americans in the Midwest well I was just going to come
    comin on the corner of courses
    remember to the extent is remembered very much for the frontier thesis
    which basically argues that the fact that the United States had this western frontier
    frontier were people kept moving out into had a major impact on how the country

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    unlike other countries France or whatever
    frontier influence so I think that’s an appointment
    22 rays that’s why I remember
    what is not remember 4 and this was my point and I & I hope I didn’t
    clarified very well but my point was he became a leader in the
    19 century in addition to promoting the frontier thesis
    heat promoted the idea of focusing on this region and he said

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    set after spending time on the East Coast at Johns Hopkins in other places that
    that they just didn’t really focus on the interior of the country they were focused
    full cast on other subject matter and this is
    this is kind of a forgotten part of Frederick Jackson Turner the extent to which he was original
    regional is an original s voice and that was my point with regard to Turner
    okay let’s go ahead and take another call
    flat Illinois good morning run Focus

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    very interesting I just got to comments to make one and you can
    Chicago reinventing the tell if you’re talking about the rough spot
    Bell parts fit a one time Chicago was the lumber capital of the world
    worldwide Chino bring that up in conversation I don’t know anybody that realizes that
    how important was the mother of the reinvention to Chicago the other
    iced out my vacation Nebraska
    a book to read that might get people interested in their background

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    Joe’s comes to mind but very entertaining
    families there similar
    tumblr stories of 00 jewels and then I’ll stop right now
    okay well thank you very much for your call Ron and I’m wondering
    in terms of capital of what’s up before after
    after the fire im wondering that would have been before of course much
    much of the Midwest you know we talked earlier about that you’re up James Cinemark

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    Cooper in the French and Indian War etc during that period time
    was heavily covered with with lumber
    timber and sell one of the early industries
    of the region was lumber and this is where we get
    Blue Ox in all of this mythology surrounding
    the lumber cancion of course still up farther north in northern Minnesota
    Minnesota northern Michigan

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    that was a phase in the economic development of the Midwest it was
    it was followed up by this industrial fans in this industry
    Trey still process to a certain extent but its not like it once was
    okay let’s go ahead and I take another color let’s go to a line 1
    110 good morning gentleman
    I just want to make a little comet about
    the state I grew up in Iowa

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    62 grades
    studying Nebraska I don’t remember who the author wife
    social studies class you study to from where
    coolant in a column in the city
    that’s all I have to say the education thank you thank you very much
    much and I actually that reminds me also reminds me
    why I wanted to people riding in a similar specialties

    00:44:50

    on a unit of local history Dana Wright Kentucky junior high school
    high school social studies where you say they learned about the early settlers are local one room schoolhouse
    full house in house smaller on clays became one town
    interesting neighborhoods name street names
    cetera what’s your opinion about hyper localizing
    forgetting the story today students
    what I think that is a great way to introduce

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    children to the story of the region you have to start somewhere and if you
    if you can localiza and have them dia de la loca
    cool story and then have that local story fit into a bigger picture
    picture important part of an exercise like that is to help the sea
    what this local history means in terms of the totality of the region
    region of the country in the world and I think of you can do that
    if you can at once focus on the micro but still but use it

    00:46:00

    to tell if your story then it starts to sing can people become more conscious of the
    sense of their place and where they fit
    Anne at same time Elko Nevada globalized sense of
    things to do so it can be win win if its done properly
    properly we are running out of time apologize for the calls and I’m not able to
    table to get to one another in this hour a focus to Johnny wanted to get
    get to give you the last word on do you see any hope for getting a bigger

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    how big your voice from Midwestern history how do you change things in terms of history
    why don’t you might think there is a little bit of hope
    without a conference in Wisconsin last fall
    Empire going to the conference I send an email to some of the other people think
    let’s meet at the bar at the conference hotel and spa
    talk about this problem of Midwestern history come on down will have a chat about
    can think of some ways to deal with it and I thought maybe 3 or 4 people

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    we at 35 people come to that meeting and so we formed
    Midwestern history Working Group and weed
    starter our own Facebook page in Twitter account
    email list and sore trying to get people organize the little bad and we’re going to
    to have some more meetings talk about this in March we’re going to meet in Omaha
    Missouri Valley history conference center and we have some more meaning
    land after that so if you’re really interested in that please

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    can a member of the Midwestern history Working Group on the internet in
    and maybe we can turn things around a little bit okay John
    John John Locke we are out of time but I wanted to thank you for being on focus today
    Johnlock of South Dakota is the author of the Lost region published by the University of
    city of Iowa Press coming for a revival of interest in the Midwest History thank you for being
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